36 Wayne McRoy on Lilith

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Unveiling the Myth of Lilith: The Truth Behind Occult Practices

In this episode, we explore the myth of Lilith and its modern-day interpretation as an icon for feminism and occult practices. The discussion delves into how secret societies and cults manipulate ancient myths like Lilith for power and control, emphasizing sex magic and mythological archetypes. The script details the origins of these ideas, their lack of religious basis, and how they are used to create a synthetic, spiritless reality. The primary takeaway is that the proclaimed secret knowledge is a facade, built on manipulation and fraud, contributing to a death cult that distorts natural human essence.

00:00 Introduction to Lilith and Feminism
00:18 Secret Societies and Sex Magic
00:31 Origins and Manipulation of Myths
01:08 The Illusion of Secret Knowledge
01:18 The Reality of Power and Control
01:48 The Deception of Modern Practices
03:14 The Synthetic World Vision
03:50 The Cycle of Strength and Weakness

🚨 BREAKING: LILITH IS BACK… AND SHE’S RUINING YOUR FAVORITE AI APP 🔥

Drop everything, mortals! 🍎🐍 This isn’t your grandma’s Bible study—Lilith 2.0 is here, and she’s got a TikTok account, a CRISPR lab, and a bone to pick with Adam’s dusty patriarchy. 💀✨

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Full unedited #36

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WHY YOU NEED TO LISTEN RN:

Elon Musk’s SECRET ROMULUS BABY 👶🐺—spoiler: It’s not just a weird name. New Roman Empire incoming. 🏛️🚀
TECHNO-FEMINISM OR DEMONIC UBER EATS? 🤖🔮 Your fave #GirlBoss might be channeling literal anti-life energies. #Whoops
“AI ABORTION CLINICS” 🏥💉—because nothing says “empowerment” like a Satanic algorithm. 😈📱
WHY MARK ZUCKERBERG’S AVATAR LOOKS LIKE BAPHOMET 👹🕶️ (Hint: It’s not a glitch.)

HOT TAKE: Modern feminism isn’t a movement—it’s a death cult dressed in Pinterest aesthetics. 💅⚰️ #SacredAutonomyOrSatanicBrunch

JOKE: Why did Lilith swipe left on Adam? He kept asking her to “submit to his LinkedIn connection request.” 🙄💔

EMOJI STORYTIME: 🐺🔥👩💻🌌🔮—Girlboss, Gaslight, Gatekeep… the Occult.

YOU’LL LITERALLY LOSE SLEEP OVER:

Synchromystic Metadata 🕵️♂️📡—Elon’s kid + cloned dire wolves = New World Order fanfiction LARP turns real MET GALA vibes quick.
CRISPR Coven TikTokers 🧬🧙♀️—Your DNA is their ritual ingredient. #BiohackingBabylon (Save your placenta from creeps)
Project 2025 📜🩸—The Heritage Foundation’s villain origin story.

HASHTAG YOUR PANIC: #AIApocalypse #LilithVsTheAlgorithm #TechBros #ConspiracyAesthetic

FINAL WARNING: If you don’t listen, the egregore wins. 🧠💥 Press play before Elon colonizes Mars with his demonic Tesla baby mamas. 🚗👾

👉 CLICK. LISTEN. TIME TO HECKING UP DOGGOS. 👂🔥

P.S. If you ignore this, your WiFi router will hex you.

📶🔮 You’ve been warned.

So I guess we'll compete to see who's the Garthiest Garth of all Garth.

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Ancient Goddess’ Digital Disciples Crash Silicon Valley Servers!
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Meta CEO “Under Spell” as AR Avatars Turn Demonic!
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NFT Warlocks Drain Wallets with “Blockchain Hexes”!
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Tesla Bots “Possessed” by Pagan Programming!
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Tech Layoffs Blamed on Rogue AI Witchcraft!

Maybe you need jokes. We got jokes.

Joke 1: The Unexpected Alliance
Why did a Christian, a Norse Pagan, a Jew, and a Muslim all agree on something?
Because they finally found a common enemy: modern-day Lilith worship! Turns out, even the gods of Asgard and the prophets of the Quran can agree that Lilith is a bit too rebellious for their taste.

Joke 2: The Lilith Dilemma
Why did Lilith break up with her boyfriend?
Because he refused to submit to her demands! She said, "I'm Lilith, the first wife of Adam, and I won't be told what to do!" He replied, "Well, I'm not Adam, and I won't be told what to do either!" Looks like they both needed a break from each other.

Joke 3: The Occult Meeting
Why did the occultists invite Lilith to their meeting?
Because they heard she was great at sex magic! But when she showed up, they realized she was more into anti-life energies and demonology. They said, "Lilith, we thought you were here to spice things up, not bring the apocalypse!"

Joke 4: The Techno-Feminist
Why did the techno-feminist bring a Lilith doll to the biohacking conference?
Because she wanted to channel Lilith's energy into her CRISPR experiments! She said, "With Lilith's help, I'll create the ultimate postgenderist being!" Her colleagues replied, "Just make sure it doesn't turn into a demonic force!"

Joke 5: The Synchromystic Detective
Why did Wayne McCroy bring a magnifying glass to the movie theater?
Because he was on the hunt for synchromystic metadata! He said, "I swear, if I find one more hidden symbol in this film, I'll write a whole podcast episode about it!" His friend replied, "Wayne, it's just a popcorn commercial!"

Joke 6: The Hegelian Trap
Why did the Hegelian dialectic go to therapy?
Because it was tired of being used as a control mechanism! It said, "I'm just trying to help society evolve, but everyone keeps using me to manipulate and control!" The therapist replied, "Maybe it's time to take a break from the thesis, antithesis, and synthesis routine."

Joke 7: The Lilith Clinic
Why did the Lilith Clinic offer free abortions?
Because they believed it was a "sacred act of autonomy"! But when the patients started turning into demonic forces, they realized they might have taken the "anti-life energies" a bit too literally.

Joke 8: The Algorithmic Priestess
Why did the influencer who monetized #LilithWisdom get banned from social media?
Because her content was a mix of tarot readings, CRISPR tutorials, and anti-patriarchy rants! She said, "But I was just trying to empower women!" The moderators replied, "Empowerment is great, but maybe tone down the demonic forces a bit."

Joke 9: The Project 2025
Why did Project 2025 fail?
Because they tried to engineer a societal collapse and a return to "traditional values" all at once! They said, "We thought it would be a smooth transition, but turns out, people don't like being manipulated into authoritarianism!"

Joke 10: The New Roman Empire
Why did Elon Musk name his child Romulus?
Because he wanted to start a New Roman Empire! But when people started noticing the lupine imagery and hidden symbols, he realized he might have gone a bit too far with the synchromystic metadata.

🤖 Calling All AI Ethicists & Mythologists!
How does Lilith’s 2025 rebirth reflect AI’s role in reshaping cultural narratives? Listen as we dissect techno-feminism Lilith worshpping TikTok witches, CRISPR rituals, and the "New Roman Empire" algorithm.

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AIMythmaking #OccultAI #TechSpirituality

"Lilith isn’t just a myth anymore. In 2025, she’s a techno-shaman, a CRISPR rebel, and a viral hashtag. But is her ‘empowerment’ a revolution—or a corporate algorithm? 🔍✨
👉 Let's to dive into the occult roots of modern feminism.

Lilith #DigitalWitchcraft #FeminismUnmasked"

"Working with Lilith in 2025? 🖤 It’s not just tarot cards and moon rituals. It’s AI-driven Private and Safe Outpatient Abortion Care clinics, gene-edited autonomy, and Elon Musk’s baby mama drama. Are we reclaiming power—or being programmed to Netflix and Chill? 😱
💻 Read the full breakdown.

OccultTech #TranshumanismExposed #FeministParadox"

Who’s Really Pulling Lilith’s Strings?**
"Lilith’s a viral baddie. Butt is she a feminist icon—or a sleek corporate egregor? 🧐 From TikTok covens to CRISPR startups, her ‘rebellion’ smells like tech-bro branded spirituality. 🤑
🚨 Think you’re free? Think again.

Synchromysticism #ConspiracyAesthetic

The Algorithmic Priestess?
"Your fave influencer’s #LilithWisdom? It’s brought to you by AI, CRISPR labs, and the same elites you claim to hate. 😈 Is your ‘spirituality’ just another subscription? 💸
📲 Swipe to decode the occult-industrial complex.

TechnoSpirituality #OccultInfluencer #WakeUpWitches"

Escape Eden 2.0
"Lilith fled Eden to reject control. But in 2025, her ‘freedom’ looks like neural implants, AI rituals, and a Mars colony named ‘New Rome.’ 🚀🌑
🤔 Is this liberation—or a gilded cage?

PostgenderFuture #NewRomanEmpire #OccultRevolution"

Would Lilith Use TikTok?
"She refused Adam’s rules—but would she sell ads for Big Tech? 📱💀 Modern ‘Lilithians’ are caught between rebellion and branded spirituality. Where do YOU draw the line? ⚖️
🔗 Link in bio to join the debate.

LilithVsTheAlgorithm #DigitalRebellion #FeminismOrFacade"

"Abortion as a ‘sacred act’? 🩸 Lilith Health’s AI clinics promise autonomy—but critics call it ‘corporate occultism.’ Is this feminism… or Satanism rebrand? 🏥⚛️
Private and Safe Outpatient Abortion Care claims to be painless but women haunted by Lilith disagree.

TechnoFeminism #BiohackingBabylon #ConspiracyAlert"

Your Rebellion is Trending?
"Lilith’s not just a myth. She’s a meme, a marketing strategy, and a Mars colony logo. 🐺🚀 Are you really resisting the system—or just its latest avatar? 🧠
🔥 Hot take incoming.

OccultCapitalism #RebelSell #StayWokeWitches"

Social Media Post Ideas to Promote the Essay:

Lilith #DigitalWitchcraft #FeminismUnmasked"

"Working with Lilith in 2025? 🖤 It’s not just tarot cards and moon rituals. It’s AI-driven clinics, gene-edited autonomy, and Elon Musk’s baby mama drama. Are we reclaiming power—or being programmed to Netflix and Chill? 😱
💻 Read the full breakdown.

OccultTech #TranshumanismExposed #FeministParadox"

Who’s Really Pulling Lilith’s Strings?**
"Lilith’s gone viral. But is she a feminist icon—or a corporate egregor? 🧐 From TikTok covens to CRISPR startups, her ‘rebellion’ smells like branded spirituality. 🤑
🚨 Think you’re free? Think again.

MythVsMetadata #Synchromysticism #ConspiracyAesthetic"

TechnoSpirituality #OccultInfluencer #WakeUpWitches"

PostgenderFuture #NewRomanEmpire #OccultRevolution"

LilithVsTheAlgorithm #DigitalRebellion #FeminismOrFacade"

"Abortion as a ‘sacred act’? 🩸 Lilith Health’s AI clinics promise autonomy—but critics call it ‘corporate occultism.’ Is this feminism… or Satanism rebrand? 🏥⚛️

TechnoFeminism #BiohackingBabylon #ConspiracyAlert"

OccultCapitalism #RebelSell #StayWokeWitches"

[00:03:30] Pop Culture Banter & Garth Brooks Roleplay

Humorous competition over "Garthiest Garth" persona.
Casual banter about Ben's personal anecdotes and cowboy hats.

[00:06:00] Livestream Debate Clip Analysis & Gun Safety Discussion

Reaction to "Powder Dusty" debate clip involving violent threats.
Critique of reckless gun behavior and emphasis on firearm safety rules.
Nostalgic reflection on childhood gun discipline.

[00:10:00] Wayne McRoy Introduction

Shift from gun safety to reproductive health topics.
Introduction of guest Wayne McCroy, highlighting his background in occult research.

[00:17:00] Lilith: Mythological Origins vs. Feminist Iconography

Debunking Lilith’s biblical authenticity (Alphabet of Ben Sira as satire).
Feminist reinterpretation of Lilith as a symbol of rebellion against patriarchal norms.
Wayne’s analysis: Lilith as an inverted archetype tied to occult sex magic and techno-feminism.

[00:24:00] Techno-Feminism, Transhumanism, and Postgenderism

Link between Lilith’s mythology and modern movements rejecting biological gender.
Critique of ab0rti0n advocacy and antilife ideologies.
Grimes’ interview clip on human evolution into "Homo techno."

[00:32:00] Occult Secret Societies and Synthetic Initiation

Wayne’s breakdown of OTO, Freemasons, and their fabricated rituals.
Discussion of "synthetic initiation" and manipulation through secret hierarchies.
Paracelsus, elementals, and the role of fiction in occult traditions.

[00:46:00] Egregores, Tulpas, and Collective Thought Forms

How belief systems manifest as egregores (e.g., Lilith as a feminist egregore).
Chaos magic, thought forms, and Skinner’s experiments on ritual efficacy.
Parallels to Roman myth rebranding and modern occult fraud.

[01:00:00] Lilith Clinics and ab0rti0n Activism

Satirical critique of "Lilith Clinics" as ab0rti0n providers.
Jex Blackmore’s live-TV ab0rti0n stunt and satanic symbolism.
Feminist adoption of Lilith as a death-cult figure tied to eugenics.

[01:30:00] Synchromystic Metadata and Predictive Symbolism

Wayne’s theory on synchronicities in media (e.g., dire wolves named Romulus/Remus).
Elon Musk’s child named "Romulus" and ties to "New Roman Empire" symbolism.
Pope Leo XIV, King Charles’ red portrait, and alchemical encoding in politics.

[02:00:00] Elon Musk, Technocracy, and Project Paperclip Conspiracies

Alleged ties between Musk’s family and MK Ultra/Technocracy movements.
Claims about Musk’s grandfather faking death to work on U.S. government projects.
Satire of Musk’s "Legion of Super Babies" and transhumanist aspirations.

[02:30:00] The New Roman Empire and Fourth Turning Theory

Symbolic revival of Rome via Trump, Pope Leo, and Caesar’s Superdome.
Wayne’s eschatological take on Babylon/Rome’s cyclical collapse.
Hegelian dialectic and engineered cultural shifts toward traditionalism.

[02:45:00] Final Thoughts and "Dog Pound" Segment

Roasting debate dodgers (e.g., Marty Bleeds as "Yurt McGirt").
Humorous critique of Kanye West’s Hitler references and Amanda Palmer’s Dresden Doll ab0rti0n anthems.
Closing remarks on synchromysticism and preview of future topics.

1. Synchromystic Metadata and Predictive Symbolism (01:30:00–02:00:00)

Concept: Wayne McCroy introduces synchromystic metadata—a theory linking symbols, names, and cultural artifacts to predict or decode hidden agendas.
Examples:
- Dire Wolves: The naming of cloned dire wolves "Romulus" and "Remus" (mythical founders of Rome) as a nod to reviving a "New Roman Empire."
- Elon Musk: Musk naming his child Romulus and its symbolic tie to imperial imagery.
- Pope Leo XIV: Analysis of his name ("Leo" symbolizing the lion, tied to alchemical "red lion" symbolism) and King Charles’ red portrait as harbingers of political-alchemical shifts.
Purpose: Suggests media and elites use these symbols to subconsciously prime the public for future events, such as centralized power structures.

2. Elon Musk, Technocracy, and Conspiracy Claims (02:00:00–02:30:00)

Project Paperclip: Discussion of Musk’s alleged familial ties to post-WWII U.S. programs that recruited Nazi scientists, with claims his grandfather (a Canadian technocrat) faked his death to work on secret projects.
Technocracy: Musk’s ventures (Neuralink, SpaceX) framed as steps toward transhumanism and a technocratic world order.
Controversial Claims:
- A guest alleges Musk’s role in advancing the "mark of the beast" (digital ID systems).
- Satire of Musk’s "Legion of Super Babies" comment, linking it to dystopian population control.

3. The New Roman Empire and Fourth Turning Theory (02:30:00)

Revival of Rome: Symbolic connections between modern politics (Trump’s Caesarlike imagery, Super Bowl at Caesar’s Superdome) and ancient Rome’s imperial legacy.
Fourth Turning Theory:
- A generational cycle theory predicting societal collapse and renewal every ~80–100 years.
- Tied to current "return to traditionalism" as engineered backlash against progressive excess (e.g., anti-woke policies).
Hegelian Dialectic: Suggests elites manipulate conflict (thesis vs. antithesis) to synthesize control, e.g., using feminism’s extremes to justify conservative revival.

Podcast Summary: "Lilith, Occult Influences, and Modern Movements"

The podcast features a discussion with Wayne McCroy and other hosts exploring the myth of Lilith, her origins, and her modern reinterpretation as a feminist icon. Key themes include:

Lilith's Myth and Feminist Symbolism:
- Lilith is portrayed in some Jewish folklore (e.g., The Alphabet of Ben Sira) as Adam’s first wife, created equal to him, who refused submission and fled Eden. This narrative has been adopted by modern feminism to symbolize autonomy and rebellion against patriarchal structures.
- Critics argue this interpretation is ahistorical, stemming from medieval texts rather than ancient tradition, and note contradictions (e.g., Lilith’s association with demonology and fertility).
Occult and Secret Society Connections:
- Lilith’s story has been co-opted by occult groups (e.g., Theosophists, OTO) and linked to sex magic, egregors (collective thought-forms), and transhumanism.
- The hosts critique how 19th-century occultists distorted ancient myths to create new ideologies, blending Kabbalistic concepts like Tannin Iver (demonic forces) with feminist and techno-utopian agendas.
Jezebel vs. Lilith Spirits:
- Jezebel (a historical figure) represents manipulation and idolatry, while Lilith symbolizes rebellion and anti-life energies. Both are conflated in modern occult feminism but differ in origin and intent.
Techno-Feminism and Transhumanism:
- The discussion ties modern feminism to postgenderism and transhumanism, where technology (e.g., AI, bioengineering) seeks to erase biological gender, framed as an "inversion of natural order." Examples include clinics like Lilith Clinic promoting abortion and activists like Jex Blackmore normalizing extreme ideologies.
Media, Synchromysticism, and Control:
- The hosts analyze synchromystic metadata—hidden symbolic patterns in media (e.g., Elon Musk’s child named Romulus, Pope Leo XIV’s election)—as signs of a planned "New Roman Empire."
- Critiques of AI and social media highlight how technology manipulates collective consciousness, echoing occult principles of manifestation through belief.
Cyclical Power and Traditional Values:
- The conversation concludes with warnings about engineered societal collapse and a return to "traditional values" as a Hegelian control mechanism. References to Project 2025 and the Heritage Foundation suggest a deliberate shift toward authoritarianism under the guise of moral revival.

Final Takeaway: The podcast frames modern cultural shifts as part of a long-standing occult agenda, blending ancient myth, secret society influence, and technology to reshape human identity and societal structures. The hosts advocate critical awareness of these narratives to resist manipulation.

Highlights of the Conversation:

Lilith’s Myth vs. Modern Symbolism
- Mythological Roots: Lilith is discussed as Adam’s rebellious first wife in medieval Jewish texts (e.g., The Alphabet of Ben Sira), fleeing Eden over equality.
- Feminist Reinterpretation: Adopted as an icon of autonomy and resistance to patriarchy, despite contradictions (e.g., her demonic associations in folklore).
- Critique: The hosts argue this narrative is ahistorical, emphasizing its distortion by modern feminists and occultists.
Occult Influence and Secret Societies
- Egregors and Thought-Forms: Lilith is framed as an egregor—a collective thought-form empowered by belief—used in occult practices like sex magic.
- Historical Distortion: 19th-century occult groups (e.g., Theosophists, OTO) blended Kabbalistic concepts (e.g., Tannin Iver) with feminist and transhumanist agendas, creating synthetic ideologies.
Jezebel vs. Lilith in Occult Traditions
- Jezebel: A historical figure linked to manipulation and idolatry.
- Lilith: A rebellious archetype associated with anti-life energies and demonology. Both are conflated in modern occult feminism but differ in origin.
Techno-Feminism and Transhumanism
- Postgenderism: Framed as an erasure of biological sex via technology (e.g., AI, bioengineering), promoting a "synthetic reality."
- Anti-Life Agenda: Clinics like Lilith Clinic and activists (e.g., Jex Blackmore) normalize abortion and transhumanist ideals, seen as inversions of natural order.
Media, Symbolism, and Synchromysticism
- Hidden Patterns: Examples like Elon Musk’s child named Romulus and Pope Leo XIV’s election are analyzed as symbolic nods to a "New Roman Empire."
- AI and Social Media: Critiqued as tools to manipulate collective consciousness, echoing occult principles of manifestation through belief.
Cyclical Control and Political Agendas
- Project 2025: The Heritage Foundation’s plan is framed as a push toward authoritarianism under the guise of "traditional values."
- Hegelian Dialectic: Societal shifts are engineered (e.g., woke extremism followed by conservative backlash) to centralize power, likened to a "jackboot" regime.
Critique of Modern Movements
- Death Cult Allegations: Modern feminism and transhumanism are labeled as anti-life, prioritizing pleasure and technology over spiritual accountability.
- Role of Art and Media: Authors and influencers (e.g., Amanda Palmer, Neil Gaiman) are accused of embedding destructive ideologies into popular culture.

Final Takeaway: The conversation frames modern cultural shifts as part of a longstanding occult-political agenda, blending myth, technology, and symbolism to reshape human identity and societal structures. The hosts advocate critical awareness to resist manipulation.

Primary :
- Lilith myth origins
- Feminist reinterpretation of Lilith
- Occult feminism and symbolism
- Transhumanism and techno-feminism
- Secret societies and cultural manipulation
Long-Tail :
- "Lilith in Jewish folklore vs modern feminism"
- "Occult influence on feminist movements"
- "Synchromystic metadata and hidden symbolism"
- "Project 2025 and traditional values revival"
- "Elon Musk, transhumanism, and New Roman Empire"
Trending/Niche Terms:
- AI manipulation and collective consciousness
- Postgenderism and anti-life ideologies
- Egregor thought-forms in occultism
- Hegelian dialectic in societal control
- Critique of modern feminism as death cult

General Reach:

Transhumanism

SecretSocieties

FeministIcon

OccultInfluence

LilithMyth

Niche Communities:

TechnoFeminism

MythologyVsModernity

ConspiracyDeepDive

OccultSymbolism

Synchromysticism

Trending/Current Events:

SpiritualWarfare

CulturalManipulation

AIandSociety

ElonMuskConspiracy

Project2025

Critique & Debate:

HegelianControl

DeathCultNarratives

TraditionalValuesRevival

OccultAgenda

ModernFeminismCritique

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Titles: Use keywords like "Lilith: Ancient Myth vs Modern Feminist Icon" or "Occult Roots of Transhumanism and Techno-Feminism."
Meta Descriptions: Highlight contrasts, e.g., "Uncover how Lilith’s medieval myth fuels modern occult feminism and transhumanist agendas."
Engagement Hooks: Pose questions like "Is modern feminism a death cult? Dive into the occult ties of Lilith and techno-utopianism."

Platform-Specific Strategies:

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Twitter/Threads: Use debate-driven hashtags (#FeminismDebate, #OccultExposed) and tag influencers in mythology/conspiracy spaces.
Instagram/Visuals: Pair mythic imagery (e.g., Lilith art) with hashtags like #MythologyArt, #OccultAesthetics.

By blending high-search-volume terms with niche occult/conspiracy keywords, this strategy targets both broad audiences and dedicated communities interested in hidden cultural narratives.

Lilith in 2025: Empowerment, Occultism, and the Techno-Feminist Paradox

In 2025, the resurgence of Lilith as a symbol of female autonomy has reached new heights, weaving ancient myth into the fabric of modern techno-feminism. Women who claim to "work with Lilith" today are not merely invoking a medieval folktale but participating in a complex cultural phenomenon—one that blends occult symbolism, digital-age identity politics, and transhumanist ambition. This movement, however, is fraught with contradictions: it promises liberation while echoing age-old systems of control, merging spirituality with synthetic reality, and raising critical questions about agency in an era of engineered narratives.

Lilith’s Myth: From Rebellion to Archetype

Lilith’s origins lie in Jewish folklore, notably The Alphabet of Ben Sira (circa 8th–10th century CE), where she is framed as Adam’s defiant first wife who rejects subservience and flees Eden. Historically, she was demonized as a child-killing seductress, a narrative weaponized to reinforce patriarchal norms. Yet by the 20th century, feminist and occult circles reclaimed her as an icon of resistance—a symbol of bodily autonomy, sexual freedom, and rejection of systemic oppression.

In 2025, this archetype has evolved. Lilith is no longer confined to esoteric texts or feminist manifestos but thrives in digital spaces, where hashtags like #LilithRising and #OccultFeminism trend alongside AI-generated art depicting her as a cybernetic goddess. For modern women, "working with Lilith" often means embracing a hybrid identity: part ancient rebel, part techno-shaman.

The Occult-Techno Synthesis

The Lilith of 2025 exists at the intersection of occult tradition and transhumanist innovation:

Egregors and Digital Thought-Forms:
Lilith has become an egregor—a collective thought-form empowered by belief. Online rituals, virtual covens, and TikTok spellcasting tutorials amplify her presence, merging Kabbalistic mysticism with social media algorithms. Women who invoke her often describe "channeling her energy" through apps that gamify meditation or VR rituals, blurring the line between spirituality and simulation.
Techno-Feminism and Postgenderism:
The mantra "Lilith transcends biology" echoes in biohacking forums and gene-editing clinics. Projects like Lilith Labs (a fictionalized 2025 startup) promise "liberation from biological constraints," offering CRISPR-enhanced fertility control or neural implants to "reclaim the body." This aligns with postgenderist ideals, where Lilith symbolizes a future beyond binary sex—a vision critiqued as both utopian and dystopian.
Synchromystic Narratives:
Media cycles amplify Lilith’s symbolism. Elon Musk’s controversial "Project Luminous" (a 2025 Mars colony initiative) is branded with lupine imagery, while pop stars like Grimes release albums steeped in Lilithian themes. Conspiracy forums dissect these patterns as evidence of a "New Roman Empire" agenda, where ancient myths are repackaged to legitimize technocratic control.

The Paradox of Empowerment

For many women, aligning with Lilith represents a rejection of systemic oppression. Yet critics argue this movement is co-opted by the very systems it claims to oppose:

The Clinic as Temple:
Facilities like Lilith Health (a chain of AI-driven reproductive clinics) frame abortion as a "sacred act of autonomy," leveraging myth to normalize controversial technologies. Detractors label this "corporate occultism," accusing elites of weaponizing feminism to advance transhumanist goals.
The Algorithmic Priestess:
Influencers who monetize #LilithWisdom face accusations of commodifying rebellion. Their content—a mix of tarot readings, CRISPR tutorials, and anti-patriarchy rants—often prioritizes engagement over authenticity, reducing Lilith to a marketable aesthetic.
The Hegelian Trap:
By framing Lilith as both rebel and brand, the movement mirrors the Hegelian dialectic discussed in the podcast: engineered conflict (traditionalism vs. techno-feminism) creates a crisis that demands centralized "solutions." In 2025, this manifests as governments partnering with tech firms to regulate reproductive tech under the guise of "protecting female autonomy."

Conclusion: Liberation or Labyrinth?

The women working with Lilith in 2025 embody a cultural crossroads. Their practices reflect genuine yearnings for freedom, yet they unfold within a landscape where ancient symbols are digitized, bodies are technologized, and dissent is algorithmically curated. To navigate this, the movement must confront critical questions:

Is Lilith a tool for liberation, or a thought-form engineered to legitimize new hierarchies?
Does techno-feminism empower women, or reduce them to nodes in a data-driven empire?
Can spirituality thrive in a world where rituals are mediated by AI?

As the line between myth and metadata blurs, the challenge lies in discerning authentic agency from illusion—a task requiring not just rebellion, but rigorous critique of the stories we are sold. In the words of one anonymous 2025 activist: "Lilith didn’t escape Eden to become a brand. She escaped to remind us we can still think for ourselves."

Lilith2025 #OccultFeminism #TechnoSpirituality #PostgenderFuture #MythVsMachine

🚨ATTENTION ALL SEEKERS OF TRUTH!🚨

Are you ready to have your minds blown and your eyes opened to the dark forces that are destroying our world? Then buckle up, because we're diving deep into the occult underbelly of modern society with our latest podcast episode: "Lilith, Occult Influences, and Modern Movements".

🌙 Lilith: The Anti-Life Force 🌙

You thought Lilith was just a feminist icon? Think again. This ancient demon is back with a vengeance, and she's wreaking havoc on our lives. From sex magic to transhumanism, Lilith's influence is everywhere, and it's time we woke up to the truth.

🔍 The Occult Agenda 🔍

Did you know that secret societies and occult groups have been manipulating our culture for centuries? They've twisted ancient myths to create new ideologies that are destroying traditional values and societal structures. And guess who's at the center of it all? Lilith.

💥 The Techno-Feminist Paradox 💥

Modern feminism has been co-opted by dark forces, and it's leading us down a path of destruction. From postgenderism to transhumanism, these ideologies are anti-life and anti-human. And they're all tied to Lilith.

📚 The Hidden Symbolism 📚

Ever noticed the strange symbols and patterns in media and pop culture? They're not just coincidences. They're synchromystic metadata, hidden messages that are manipulating our collective consciousness. And they're all part of Lilith's plan.

🌐 The Hegelian Trap 🌐

Societal shifts are engineered to control and manipulate us. From woke extremism to conservative backlash, it's all part of a Hegelian control mechanism. And it's all tied to Lilith.

💥 It's Time to Wake Up 💥

We can't keep ignoring the dark forces that are destroying our lives. It's time to wake up, resist manipulation, and fight back against the occult agenda. Join us as we expose the truth about Lilith and her destructive influence on our world.

🎙️ Listen Now 🎙️

Don't miss this eye-opening episode. Listen now and discover the truth about the dark occult force that is destroying the lives of men and women today. Share this post and spread the word. It's time to wake up and take back our world!

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🌟 UNVEILING THE GENIUS: WAYNE McCROY AND THE POWER OF SYNCHROMYSTIC METADATA 🌟

Ever felt like there's more to the world than meets the eye? Like the symbols, patterns, and coincidences around us are whispering secrets just beyond our grasp? If so, you need to meet Wayne McCroy, the mastermind behind some of the most mind-blowing insights into the hidden layers of our reality.

🔍 The Synchromystic Guru 🔍

Wayne McCroy is not your average conspiracy theorist. He's a synchromystic detective, a modern-day Sherlock Holmes who deciphers the coded messages hidden in plain sight. His unique ability to connect the dots and uncover the synchromystic metadata that permeates our culture is nothing short of genius.

🌐 Unraveling the Web of Symbols 🌐

From the names of celebrities' children to the election of popes, Wayne McCroy sees patterns where others see chaos. He dives deep into the symbolism of media, pop culture, and historical events, revealing the interconnected web that binds them all. His insights are like a roadmap to the occult underbelly of our world, guiding us through the labyrinth of hidden meanings and secret agendas.

💡 The Power of Synchromystic Metadata 💡

Synchromystic metadata is more than just a buzzword; it's a key to understanding the forces that shape our reality. Wayne McCroy's work shows us how these hidden patterns influence our collective consciousness, manipulating our thoughts and actions in ways we never imagined. By recognizing and decoding these symbols, we can begin to see the world for what it truly is—and take control of our own destinies.

🎙️ Join the Journey 🎙️

Wayne McCroy's podcast episodes are a journey into the unknown, a voyage of discovery that will challenge your perceptions and expand your mind. Whether you're a seasoned truth-seeker or a curious newcomer, his unique insights and genius will leave you awestruck and hungry for more.

🌟 Listen Now and Be Amazed 🌟

Don't miss out on the opportunity to explore the fascinating world of synchromystic metadata with Wayne McCroy. Listen to his podcast episodes and prepare to have your mind blown. Share this post and spread the word about the genius who is unraveling the mysteries of our time.

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💥 UNBELIEVABLE ALLIANCE: CHRISTIAN, NORSE PAGAN, JEW, AND MUSLIM UNITE TO EXPOSE THE TRUTH ABOUT LILITH WORSHIP! 💥

Get ready to have your mind blown! In an unprecedented twist, a Christian, a Norse Pagan, a Jew, and a Muslim have come together to sound the alarm on the nonsensical and dangerous phenomenon of modern-day Lilith worship. This is not just a conversation; it's a wake-up call that transcends religious boundaries and exposes the dark underbelly of contemporary spirituality.

🌟 The Unlikely Alliance 🌟

Imagine the scene: a Christian, steeped in the traditions of the New Testament; a Norse Pagan, honoring the ancient gods of the North; a Jew, rooted in the wisdom of the Torah; and a Muslim, guided by the teachings of the Quran. These four individuals, each with their unique spiritual backgrounds, have found common ground in their concern over the rise of Lilith worship and its destructive influence on society.

🔍 The Danger of Modern Lilith Worship 🔍

Lilith, once a figure of ancient myth and folklore, has been reimagined as a symbol of female empowerment and rebellion. But is this modern interpretation a force for good, or is it a dangerous distortion of ancient wisdom? Our unlikely quartet delves deep into the occult roots of Lilith worship, revealing how this trend is being co-opted by dark forces to manipulate and control.

💥 The Truth Unveiled 💥

In this eye-opening discussion, our panelists pull back the curtain on the nonsensical aspects of modern Lilith worship. They expose how this trend is being used to promote anti-life ideologies, techno-feminism, and transhumanism—all under the guise of liberation and empowerment. This is a call to arms for anyone who values truth, tradition, and the sanctity of life.

🎙️ Listen Now and Be Inspired 🎙️

Don't miss this groundbreaking episode. Hear the voices of a Christian, a Norse Pagan, a Jew, and a Muslim as they unite to expose the truth about Lilith worship. Their insights are a beacon of light in a world of spiritual confusion, offering a path to clarity and understanding.

🌟 Share the Truth 🌟

Spread the word about this incredible alliance and the important message they have for us all. Share this post and encourage your friends and family to listen to this transformative conversation. It's time to wake up and see the world for what it truly is.

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Lilith, Secret Societies, and the New Roman Empire: A Deep Dive
Unveiling Lilith: Feminism, Occultism, and Modern Mythology
Techno-Feminism and the Rise of a New Roman Empire
From Lilith to AI: Exploring the Future of Humanity
Debate Dodgers and Dog Names: A Light-Hearted End to a Deep Discussion

In this episode, we delve into the intriguing world of occultism, secret societies, and the enigmatic figure of Lilith. Our guest, Wayne McCroy, joins us to explore the origins and modern interpretations of Lilith, discussing how this figure has been adopted by feminist movements and its implications in today's society. We also touch on the influence of secret societies, the manipulation of historical narratives, and the role of symbolism in shaping cultural beliefs. The conversation expands to include discussions on modern occult practices, the rise of techno-feminism, and the potential for a new Roman Empire in the context of current global events.

We also engage in a lively debate about the role of technology and artificial intelligence in shaping human evolution, referencing cultural icons like Elon Musk and the concept of a post-gender society. The episode concludes with a humorous segment where we assign "dog names" to individuals who have dodged debates with us, adding a light-hearted twist to the serious discussions. Join us for a thought-provoking journey through history, mythology, and the future of humanity.

"LILITH IS BACK: The Dark Truth About 2025’s Feminist AI Cult (They Don’t Want You to Know)"

"Why EVERY Woman is Being Programmed to Worship Lilith (Elon Musk’s Secret Role Exposed)"

Here are some YouTube video titles styled as tabloid headlines based on the topics discussed:

"Lilith's Dark Secret: How Modern Witches Are Summoning the Demon Queen!"
- Uncover the shocking truth behind the rise of Lilith worship and its dangerous influence on young women.
"Techbros Beware: Lilith's Seductive Spell Casts a Deadly Web!"
- Find out how the ancient demon is luring unsuspecting men into her occult trap.
"TikTok Witches Gone Wild: Lilith's Lewd Rituals Exposed!"
- Witness the explicit rituals and sex magic practices performed by modern-day Lilith worshippers on social media.
"The Occult Agenda: How Secret Societies Are Using Lilith to Control the World!"
- Discover the hidden connections between Lilith, secret societies, and the global elite.
"Lilith's Techno-Feminist Army: The Shocking Truth About Postgenderism and Transhumanism!"
- Learn how Lilith's influence is driving the push for a synthetic reality and the erasure of biological sex.
"Synchromystic Shock: Hidden Symbols in Pop Culture Reveal Lilith's Master Plan!"
- Explore the eerie patterns and coded messages that point to Lilith's occult agenda.
"The Hegelian Trap: How Lilith's Minions Are Engineering Societal Collapse!"
- Uncover the manipulative tactics used by Lilith's followers to create chaos and centralize power.
"Lilith's Clinic of Horrors: The Dark Truth About Abortion and Anti-Life Ideologies!"
- Investigate the disturbing practices and beliefs promoted by clinics like Lilith Health.
"The Algorithmic Priestess: How Influencers Are Monetizing Lilith's Dark Magic!"
- Examine the role of social media influencers in spreading Lilith's occult message and commodifying rebellion.
"Project 2025: The New World Order's Lilith-Inspired Blueprint for Authoritarianism!"
- Reveal the sinister plans of the Heritage Foundation and their allies to impose a "traditional values" regime under the guise of moral revival.
"Lilith's New Roman Empire: Elon Musk, Popes, and the Occult Symbolism of the Elite!"
- Connect the dots between high-profile figures and the hidden symbols that point to Lilith's influence on global events.
"The Death Cult of Modern Feminism: How Lilith's Anti-Life Energies Are Poisoning the Movement!"
- Critique the destructive ideologies and practices promoted by modern feminists under the influence of Lilith.
"Lilith's Cybernetic Goddess: The Techno-Shaman Hybrid and the Blurring of Reality!"
- Explore the fusion of ancient occultism and modern technology in the creation of Lilith's digital avatar.
"The Jezebel vs. Lilith Showdown: Which Demon Queen Will Reign Supreme?"
- Compare and contrast the two powerful female archetypes and their roles in modern occultism.
"Lilith's Egregor Army: The Collective Thought-Form That's Taking Over the World!"Sensational Tabloid Headlines Blending Mysticism and Tech Scandals:
- Learn about the power of egregors and how Lilith's collective thought-form is being used to manipulate and control the masses.
"HECATE'S HACKERS HEX TECH TITANS INTO TURMOIL"
Ancient Goddess’ Digital Disciples Crash Silicon Valley Servers!
"MORGAN LE FAY'S METAVERSE MAGIC MESMERIZES MARK ZUCKERBERG"
Meta CEO “Under Spell” as AR Avatars Turn Demonic!
"BAPHOMET'S BOTS BEWITCH CODING ELITE INTO CRYPTO CULTS"
Developers Sacrifice Sleep (and Sanity) for Satanic Algorithms!
"WITCHY WEB3 WEAVERS WRECK CRYPTO BROS’ FORTUNES"
NFT Warlocks Drain Wallets with “Blockchain Hexes”!
"OCCULT INFLUENCERS CURSE CRYPTO COLD WALLETS TO ASHES"
TikTok Sorceresses Blamed for $10M Bitcoin Meltdown!
"SIREN SERVERS SEDUCE STARTUP CEOS INTO SCANDALOUS SYNDICATES"
AI-Powered Honeypots Lure Tech Moguls to Dark Web Dens!
"DIGITAL DRUIDS DRAIN DEVELOPERS’ DOPAMINE WITH DARK APPS"
Coding Zombies Hooked on “Algorithmic Elixirs”!
"MYSTIC MODS MUDDLE MICROSOFT’S METAVERSE WITH MALWARE"
HoloLens Headsets Haunted by Poltergeist Code!
"ENCHANTED ENGINEERS ENSNARE ELON’S EMPIRE IN EERIE ECOSYSTEM"
Tesla Bots “Possessed” by Pagan Programming!
"SPELLBINDING SOFTWARE SINKHOLE SWALLOWS SILICON SALARIES"
Tech Layoffs Blamed on Rogue AI Witchcraft!

[00:03:30] Pop Culture Banter & Garth Brooks Roleplay

Humorous competition over "Garthiest Garth" persona.
Casual banter about Ben's personal anecdotes and cowboy hats.

[00:06:00] Livestream Debate Clip Analysis & Gun Safety Discussion

Reaction to "Powder Dusty" debate clip involving violent threats.
Critique of reckless gun behavior and emphasis on firearm safety rules.
Nostalgic reflection on childhood gun discipline.

[00:10:00] Wayne McRoy Introduction

Shift from gun safety to reproductive health topics.
Introduction of guest Wayne McCroy, highlighting his background in occult research.

[00:17:00] Lilith: Mythological Origins vs. Feminist Iconography

Debunking Lilith’s biblical authenticity (Alphabet of Ben Sira as satire).
Feminist reinterpretation of Lilith as a symbol of rebellion against patriarchal norms.
Wayne’s analysis: Lilith as an inverted archetype tied to occult sex magic and techno-feminism.

[00:24:00] Techno-Feminism, Transhumanism, and Postgenderism

Link between Lilith’s mythology and modern movements rejecting biological gender.
Critique of abortion advocacy and antilife ideologies.
Grimes’ interview clip on human evolution into "Homo techno."

[00:32:00] Occult Secret Societies and Synthetic Initiation

Wayne’s breakdown of OTO, Freemasons, and their fabricated rituals.
Discussion of "synthetic initiation" and manipulation through secret hierarchies.
Paracelsus, elementals, and the role of fiction in occult traditions.

[00:46:00] Egregores, Tulpas, and Collective Thought Forms

How belief systems manifest as egregores (e.g., Lilith as a feminist egregore).
Chaos magic, thought forms, and Skinner’s experiments on ritual efficacy.
Parallels to Roman myth rebranding and modern occult fraud.

[01:00:00] Lilith Clinics and Abortion Activism

Satirical critique of "Lilith Clinics" as abortion providers.
Jex Blackmore’s live-TV abortion stunt and satanic symbolism.
Feminist adoption of Lilith as a death-cult figure tied to eugenics.

[01:30:00] Synchromystic Metadata and Predictive Symbolism

Wayne’s theory on synchronicities in media (e.g., dire wolves named Romulus/Remus).
Elon Musk’s child named "Romulus" and ties to "New Roman Empire" symbolism.
Pope Leo XIV, King Charles’ red portrait, and alchemical encoding in politics.

[02:00:00] Elon Musk, Technocracy, and Project Paperclip Conspiracies

Alleged ties between Musk’s family and MK Ultra/Technocracy movements.
Claims about Musk’s grandfather faking death to work on U.S. government projects.
Satire of Musk’s "Legion of Super Babies" and transhumanist aspirations.

[02:30:00] The New Roman Empire and Fourth Turning Theory

Symbolic revival of Rome via Trump, Pope Leo, and Caesar’s Superdome.
Wayne’s eschatological take on Babylon/Rome’s cyclical collapse.
Hegelian dialectic and engineered cultural shifts toward traditionalism.

[02:45:00] Final Thoughts and "Dog Pound" Segment

Roasting debate dodgers (e.g., Marty Bleeds as "Yurt McGirt").
Humorous critique of Kanye West’s Hitler references and Amanda Palmer’s Dresden Doll abortion anthems.
Closing remarks on synchromysticism and preview of future topics.

Uncensored Full Transcript:

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[00:00:58] but that's worth the time. Verify the stream is streaming to all the places it's needing to be sent to.

[00:01:04] I I was just finishing that, Mark. That's why I wasn't talking. I was finishing that. We are live on deliberating dog face dudes YouTube.

[00:01:13] I confirmed that.

I see that we are live on Rumble on AM wake up channel.

[00:01:21] Where else are we streaming? Also now.

[00:01:24] The AM wake up Rockfin, the AM wake up, Odyssey, the AM wake up bit shoot. We're bit shooting. We are. And the Benjamin

[00:01:40] Balderson YouTube. Okay.

[00:01:44] That guy. Yeah. I don't know if you caught that whole conversation You know what? On the gram there, Steve, about that.

[00:01:54] What's that?

[00:01:56] I said, I don't know if you caught that whole conversation in Telegram about that.

[00:02:04] I don't I don't know if I did. I don't know.

[00:02:09] You didn't, you seem to be busy for a few days, and there was a bunch of chatting. And then you came in and commented on some other things, but never on that. So I didn't know if you ever saw it. No. My my girl's kid

[00:02:20] had a a birthday party on Saturday. On Sunday,

[00:02:25] we had to go to mass. We had to go to mass,

[00:02:29] Benjie. We did. I I joined the calisthenics.

[00:02:34] I went to to the East Bay to, Catholic church that would the Spanish mass, I understood about 60%. Espanol? Yeah.

[00:02:50] That's pretty

[00:02:51] good. Spanish and Latin and Latin.

[00:02:54] Oh, so it's trilingual.

[00:02:57] Traditional. No. No. No. No. No. No. Bilingual.

[00:03:00] No English. No English.

[00:03:03] No English. Okay. No. No. No. No. No English. No English. Solomon. Solomon.

[00:03:22] So tonight tonight, guys we got so tonight, guys Hello?

[00:03:29] Hello?

[00:03:30] Tonight, we got Wayne McCroy coming in. He'll be in just shortly. And, we are gonna discuss, Lilith and the origins, and then, the things that are bandied around today, the stories, try and match all that up, have a nice little discussion about it.

[00:03:49] Yeah. You know, I I I really, appreciate and enjoy what Wayne has brought to the overall community over the last, like, god, really decade, twelve, thirteen years, something like that. He he's been at this for a minute.

And, and, yeah, he he's one of those people that really does kinda seem to go his own way and is willing to have a conversation that might become a little uncomfortable.

[00:04:23] Yeah.

[00:04:24] Yeah.

[00:04:25] Super intelligent guy. Him and I have, despite coming from very different spectrums, have always gotten along fabulously.

[00:04:33] Yeah.

[00:04:35] You know, because he can speak reasonably It doesn't also doesn't get butthurt about things all the time.

[00:04:42] Well, and Wayne was it it Ben if I'm not mistaken, I might be. I'm a little bit lifted. Not enough yet. I'm gonna get there. But Wayne was one of those guys in the freaking, little Facebook group where we all met before we all had Joe's and shit. Yeah.

[00:05:07] Yeah. Yeah. He was. And then Wayne was supposed to be the first event that, I was gonna speak at,

[00:05:14] Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[00:05:16] Wayne was supposed to be one of the speakers in there. Yeah. So there is one Wayne and three Garths tonight.

[00:05:24] Swing.

[00:05:28] So I guess we'll compete to see who's the Garthiest Garth of all Garth.

[00:05:32] I have the Garthiest Garth. I don't know. Maybe not. I don't know. I I could I could play Garth Brooks. Actually seen Ben naked. We're close.

[00:05:42] I got a kid. I have a black cowboy hat, so I could take the Garth Brooks role. You guys wanna take other Garths to pair up with tonight? Yeah. I'm sorry. I disturbed you. That's my bad. Kat with Chris Gaines.

Before Wayne gets here, we have a clip from, livestream debate. We wanna get you to

[00:06:03] Yes, sir.

[00:06:05] Share that right now and see. He's big mad at me. Well, who's big mad at me?

[00:06:10] Yeah. Yeah. Our friend guy, our associate, Powder Dusty, was apparently in a debate and, drew this reaction from somebody. This is wild.

[00:06:22] Alright. This is our first time seeing it. Thirty seven seconds. Ready?

[00:06:29] This panel verse five four. And I swear on this panel verse, if I ever see him in this life, if I ever see him in this life, I will have his kneecaps with whatever piece I'm carrying, and I'll do that in time. Because Goblin's right. He is a piece of he's running around here, gripped him for money over shit we're doing for free.

Flow state. His family, except for his kids. Just him and his wife because we're post we're just garbage.

[00:07:04] Now what the fuck about that?

[00:07:06] Totally.

[00:07:09] That was my favorite part. Look. Look. I know I know that I come from a different time or different era. I I understand that my colleague here, mister Balderson, does as well. Neither Ben nor myself and and I am gonna speak for Ben on this. Correct me if I'm wrong. But neither Ben nor myself would ever be caught fucking dead threatening someone or trying to posture on TikTok to make a fucking peacock point. Mhmm. Ever. Ever. Ever. Ever. Never. Never. Never. Never. Never.

[00:08:03] That's fucking insane.

[00:08:05] I've I've talked a lot about bullet emissions. That's an example of a bullet emission. That is a random

[00:08:13] bullet emission.

[00:08:14] That's a bullet request. Alright?

[00:08:18] That's a mission issue. That dude didn't fucking fucking ass. He looked like he was in some neighborhood, and he just fucking pops around the corners, drops a cap. He didn't look ahead of time. Like, there's some little kid over there, like, like, fucking you know, did you just shoot at your neighbor? Like, what the fuck are you doing, dude? Bro. You never ever shoot at anything unless you know what you're doing you're shooting at, what you're what the what is behind it.

[00:08:47] Like, that's been one hit. I don't know anything about the settlement. Little fucking kids,

[00:08:52] we got the shit smacked out of the top of our heads because that was the only way the BB gun or the 22 or the actual rifle would point down if we were doing it is if we got smacked on the top of our heads. We got smacked on the ass. It would go up because we'd go up. He does not So they were like, no. We're gonna smack you on the top of the fucking head if you aren't adhering to 10 very fucking simple rules. Number one, treat every gun like it's loaded. Right?

I mean, that's that's what you do when you pick up a firearm. You treat it like it's loaded. You point it down until you intend to raise it up to fire it at the thing that you're what, kids? Aiming at. Mhmm. That's right. That's right. It's not spray and pray. It's with intent, deliberation, point and shoot. After you sight, point and shoot.

[00:10:06] I'm glad we're getting the gun safety talk tonight. I think we're also gonna get the, reproductive health safety talk. Wayne McRoy

[00:10:13] is here, and it is, my my pleasure and my honor to, to bring up Wayne. Again, the you know, as far as this goes, Wayne, Balderson, myself, we've all been familiar with each other going way back to a a Facebook group that probably hasn't existed for five, six years. I don't know.

[00:10:44] Minimum.

[00:10:45] Yeah. But, but, you know and and Wayne's books have been very, very instrumental in helping me form a more complete picture of the world that we live in. Very proud and and very pleased to bring him up on the show right now, Wayne McCroy.

[00:11:08] Hey, man. Hey, guys. How's it going?

[00:11:11] Sup, Wayne. How about you? Hey, Wayne.

[00:11:14] Good to be back on here. Haven't been it's been a while since we've talked. We don't talk enough.

[00:11:18] Right on the back.

[00:11:20] I don't think we've talked in this, collaborative environment before with these, other minds together. This is a a different gathering of of minds tonight. I was joking that we have one Wayne and three Garths.

[00:11:34] Mhmm. So we're gonna party on. Well, I think it Texas. I think at some point, all of us have collaborated together somewhere or another in different formats. So, certainly, it's we we all do know each other. It's just we don't do this kind of thing enough where we get together in a collaborative like this and and talk and really hash ideas out. I heard we were gonna gossip about Lilith.

[00:12:00] We are gonna gossip about Lilith.

[00:12:03] Oh. So all of

[00:12:06] One of the hot subjects of the world today is, you know, because from my perspective, we live in a very feminine time. And so this story of Lilith is bandied about heavily and held up as an icon, for feminism. And part of this is due to the the story that you you hear mostly presented in today's format is that Lilith was Adam's first wife, that apparently Adam was had a wife before Eve. This one was not made from his rib. This one was, I I'm not sure what it was made from, to be honest. And, refused to have, anybody can correct me if I'm wrong on this one, missionary sect position sex, which was, like, considered, somehow, submissive and, you know, which I'm I'm I don't know what guy in the world ever fought to have sex, but that that that one's a little mind blowing, honey. Like, yeah. Yeah. Let's go for basic boring.

You won't do that? No. I don't like you. But, so out of this refusal, which they take as a complete refusal to submit, then Lilith quits being Adam's wife and is now somehow mother of the demons and, but also fertility and reproduction At the same time,

[00:13:41] I'm not entirely sure how that relates to the missionary position.

[00:13:48] You know, I I'm with the not you know, like, that not being the greatest. I'm with this. Like, that's where And and look, dude, I'm not I'm not here to to hate on it

[00:13:58] because there's okay. Is does it vary from missionary if she grabs her legs and pulls them back as far as she can with her hands?

Is that a woman from missionary? I'm gonna assume that you have to have some some real flexibility. I and you're probably doing yoga. That's From the the scene. That's that's the Starbucks logo. What about if you put a pillow up under the ass and you, like, grab the legs and you pin them up here, is it still because you're still technically on top. Is there I'm not hip to, you know, what the kids say as far as, like, possessions and slang terms and I don't know. I don't know.

[00:14:45] Yeah. Not sure. Feminine are much more detailed about these kind of things. And then they're always like, men just wanna have sex, and then that's all they talk about. And the dudes are over talking about cars and shit. You know? You're like Right. Right.

[00:14:59] Well, that's why they adopted Lilith as this feminist kind of icon because that's essentially what's been adopted is these these negative connotations associated with that. And I think it's more about being second fiddle than it is about positions, essentially, because, honestly, it it goes a lot deeper than just the sexual aspect, but that is part of some of the Jewish tradition that they present with Lilith.

And we could dig dig a little deeper in that because this this actually goes in a different direction altogether than what the mainstream Jewish Kabbalah tradition talks about with this. So it's not so much about sexual positions, although the feminists always treat treat it that way and try to frame it that way to justify their position. I I don't understand what the logic is behind that because, like, I I really don't know any guys that would complain about not having to do the work, but let's be honest here. So I I I don't see anything. Right? Yeah. I don't understand.

Like, the whole premise on the face of it with that being presented as one of the main talking points for for this feminist take on it is just flawed in its presentation in my view. But this goes a lot deeper, and there are other archetypes and stuff involved. And there are actually deeper stories that go back further into the Kabbalah talking about this. And this relates to a concept called tannin Ivar, and I don't know if you're familiar with that or not. But we'll definitely talk about that because that is a fascinating subject, and it's all part of this mythology that arose around this figure. And we could see there's a lot of these traditions that the secret societies have brought about based upon that. And a lot of these different cults, the cult organizations within the the different secret society groups and stuff, they are all obsessed with sex magic, like the OTO and other branches of it. And a lot of it derives from this concept of Tannen Ivar. So, it it does run a lot deeper than what the mainstream feminist story of Lilith really is, but it has been adopted as an icon for these militant feminists of our day because they see it as being empowering rather than something negative, and there's a lot of negative energy attached to that.

So I'd love to hear some more of what your take is on this, like how it got hijacked as an archetype by the feminist movement and what your thoughts are on this current feminist movement because there is an occult background to it that most people are unaware of.

[00:17:47] Well, let me let me first, address this comment, and then I will turn it over to my colleagues. Doggy style this is the comment, from from Anna Mears. Doggy style is inherently pornographic. You don't see her face. That's only, Anna, if you're disrespectful enough to not grab her by the side of the outside side of the face and turn her face towards you and say, look at me.

We're going to make eye contact while we do this. You know? Otherwise, yeah, you're probably right. If you're just if you're just, you know, like, the sitting there, checking the crown molding, trying not to come fast, it it might be.

[00:18:44] The comment may be related to the brand of the format of the stream of the show. We are calling ourselves what what are we calling ourselves? Deliberating dog face dudes. So we're gonna get a lot of we're gonna get a lot of cat jokes, a lot of dog jokes, a lot of puns, and the world has just gone to a degenerate state of Oh, and we're in reducing

[00:19:06] a new segment where we give dog names to people who have, chickened out on debating with us. We'll debut that later in the program.

[00:19:17] It's part of the puppy training program? It is. There's there are debate academies, gnostic academies, all sorts of secret schools of training, and we have our own that we're about to, We don't drag Wayne into that.

[00:19:31] No worries. Wayne does have a dog in that fight. We're talking Lilith tonight, and I get confused with Jezebel spirits and Lilith spirits. He gets them all worked up. He gets he gets all antsy in the pantsy. And I will answer my messages from last week. I'm sorry. I see that I got one from you. But, I've been hauling dirt, like, mad all week and dealing with cows and the whole nine.

I'm sorry. So I'm way behind. Yeah.

[00:20:05] You are built like a dump truck, and Wayne is here to discuss the differences between Jezebel and Lilith. What we're we're into Venn diagrams. We call them Venn diagrams.

[00:20:16] So what's the difference between Jezebel and Lilith? Oh, first of all, maybe we should discuss the difference between a Venn diagram and a Venn diagram. Okay. Some I've seen some of Venn's diagrams and some of his doodles. There there's a little bit of a difference there, but, you know, all in good fun, we we could say about these things. But there there is a slight difference between a Jezebel spirit and a Lilith spirit, although they tend to be accepted as almost of the same type of lineage.

Let's put it that way. The Jezebel spirit, this comes from the story in the Bible about the the figure Jezebel, which is completely different, a different story and arc from the Lilith arc, but it all represents feminism somehow. That's what has happened in the modern era, especially in the modern teachings of the occult. They've taken these concepts, and they've misconstrued them and made them one and the same. But when they're not, there are slight differences and variations between them. And we we get this a lot, and Ben and I were actually talking about this, about some other aspects of things. How what has happened is you get a small group of influential occultists that arose back primarily, there's a couple periods in history I've discovered through my research where this happens. And one of the big ones that affects us in the modern era happened in the mid to late eighteen hundreds where you had some of these more prominent occultists were getting together in their meetings and stuff like that, and they came up with a lot of these ideas.

And they took some of the old teachings and the old information they could find, and they misinterpreted it, misconstrued it, and applied it toward their own agenda. And then they taught this forward through these various secret schools, secret society groups, occult fraternities through the course of time, and this is what got adopted into modern occult thinking. And this is what they say this stuff comes from, when in fact what it is is it's a distortion, and oftentimes, it's an inversion of what the original teachings were. So this is what happens with that kind of thing, and this is a perfect example because they'll take this notion of a Jezebel spirit, and they'll conflate it with the spirit of Lilith, which is something entirely different. Because here's the thing. Okay? When it comes down to it, Lilith is not a human entity, and Jezebel was a human being.

And this is wherein there's a distinction and a big distinction to be made. So when you understand that, the things that Jezebel did are kind of relegated off into obscurity at this point because it's all kind of been absorbed by this Lilith kind of figure that's been put wholesale into the collective consciousness here. So that's wherein they draw some of the archetypes. So Jezebel was kind of a traitor, and that's that's kind of more of the spirit along the lines of Jezebel as opposed to Lilith. Lilith wasn't necessarily a traitor, a traitor spirit. It's more like a vampiric spirit more so than anything else when compared to a Jezebel spirit, which is about, well, pretty much bucking anything holy or spiritual and being a traitor of sorts. So there's some minor differences in detail, but it's all been absorbed into the same central icon or symbol or figure, especially as it pertains to modern feminism. And feminism in this day and age has a lot of problems with it. And what they've actually done is they've taken some of the occult philosophies that help to shape feminism and the icons and the symbols and the archetypes like Lilith, and they've applied them in a way wherein they introduce modern science and technology into the mix. And this is called techno feminism. And this is the mainstream pushing of this militant feminism we see. This is where it's heading.

And there's actually books that have been written about this by these techno feminists. That's what they call themselves, where they they are totally to the point. They're they're so mentally ill at this point with the things they've been promoting that they want to reject the notion of gender altogether, and this leads into a philosophy known as postgenderism, which is a code word for transhumanism, and that's where it all leads to. And this is what the mindset is of this techno feminist push and what mainstream feminism as we see it in culture and society today is pushing towards and for.

That's why they are totally about abortion, and they're totally about all of these things that are antilife, really, when it comes down to it. And it all has this occult backing to it, and it's all pointing forward and trying to merge the ideology with the technology of the era to bring this about. And it's all leading to this posthuman transhumanist push, postgenderism. All these things lead together in the same direction, and they've weaponized the feminine energy to do that. And that's what we're seeing going on in society today. And I've been that hugely concerning.

[00:25:37] If I may, Wayne, let me, underscore CFO had with, the CIA MIT robot, Lex Fridman, where where she talks about exactly what Wayne is underscoring right here.

[00:26:11] That's it's really dark, and you hope that we can sort of overcome that aspect of human nature, but that's still within the within us somewhere. Well, I think that's what we're doing right now. I I have this theory that,

[00:26:25] what is very important about the current moment is that, all of evolution has been survival of the fittest up until now. And, at some point, you know, it's kinda the lines are kinda fuzzy. But in the recent past or maybe even just right now, we're getting to this point where we can choose intelligent design. Like, we probably since, like, the integration of the iPhone, like, we are becoming cyborgs. Like, our brains are fundamentally changed. Everyone who grew up with electronics, we are fundamentally different from previous from Homo sapiens. I call us Homo techno. I I I think we have evolved into Homo techno, which is, like, essentially a new species.

Like, if you if you look at the way if you m r if you took an MRI of my brain and you took an MRI of, like, a medieval brain, I think it would be very different the way the way that it has evolved. Do you think when historians look back at this time, they'll see, like, this was a fundamental shift to what a human being is? I think I I I do not think we're we are still Homo sapiens. I believe we are Homo tech now, and I I I think we have evolved. And, and I think right now, the way we are evolving, we can we can choose how we do that. And I think we are being very reckless about how we're doing that. Like, we're just having social media. But I think this idea that, like, this is a time to choose intelligent design should be taken very seriously. It like, now is the moment to reprogram the human computer.

You know, it's like if you go blind, your visual cortex will get taken over with, other functions. We can choose our own evolution. We can change the way our brains work. And so we actually have a huge responsibility to do that. And I think I'm not sure who should be responsible for that, but there is definitely not adequate education. We're being inundated with all this technology that is fundamentally changing, the physical structure of our brains, and we are not, adequately responding to to that to choose how we wanna evolve. And we could evolve we we could be really whatever we want, and I think this is a really important time. And I think if we choose correctly and we choose wisely, consciousness could exist for a very long time, and integration with AI could be extremely positive.

And I don't think enough people are focusing on this specific situation. Do you think

[00:28:50] Wow. Grimes. Oh, they are focusing on it. You just don't know about it, little girl.

[00:28:55] Yeah. They are. To lot to unpack there.

[00:28:59] So my understanding of, the Lilla story and this is it goes along with what Wade is saying, and this is where it's interesting. Part of this a lot of this to begin with is this little game that through the course of the our upcoming shows, we wanna touch on quite a bit. Where they've taken and they've just decided to mush figures from different mythologies together.

So biblically or in the in the actual Jewish works, there is no actual story of will. This is from the way I understand it pulled from whether it's Sumerian or Mesopotamian, and then they'll give you different names. They're like, see that name's Lilith in in that language. No. It's fucking not. No. It's fucking not. And in the one, they even it the little figure isn't even an actual name, and you there's actually a masculine name for it, and they actually have to feminize it. They're like, see, it's here's Lilith, but if it was a female, it would be this. Like so it's not even the same thing.

So there's a, a play, and like anybody else, you know, the Jewish community had their own playwrights and things like that. And there's a play either called the alphabet of Ben Sirach or the alphabet of Ben Sirach. And this was written, between 701,000 AD. So thousand years ago. Not that long. Not not something from the original stories. And in this story, which was a play similar to, like, me comparing, going and watching Marvel to try and find out about things about Odin. And then later, acting like those things are part of the mythology is literally what happened here. So they took an entertainment play, and in this play, the way the play goes is, the alphabet he's teaching the alphabet to this little boy, and so there's little events that he teaches with each letter rather than going a b c.

And so Lilith is then the littlest story goes with l, and this is just how they're teaching the this little boy how to do it. It's it's all just a play, and they picked this up and pretended like this is real and actually incorporated it into the reality of the myth according to them. And this was specifically cabalistic feminists that did this very specifically. In the time range Wayne spoke of, him and I have had very mirroring work in that time range because there's a lot of twisting of the occult that happens during that time where these different ideas get brought forward as if they're ancient. But when you turn back and you go to look at those things, like we are right now here with Lilith, where when we look at the actual origins of the story, it comes from a play. It comes from, entertainment.

It doesn't come from actual religion, that that there's no truth to what's being displayed today. So so then what we have to take it as as a cultist is this is almost then becomes something that they want people to put energy into, which there that's a very magical thing. That's a very known thing where you take a figure, you put a whole bunch of energy into it. Now this can't gains a life of its own even though, it's not something out of mythology or anything. So to me, this is more an egregore, which is what they would call that. This is more of an egregore than an actual mythological character, and it's an egregore of feminism.

[00:33:12] And it's taken on a whole different level of power because of all the energy that's been fed into it. And you're absolutely spot on. I agree with a lot of what you have said there. And it's interesting that we approach these things from different points of view, but we come to the same conclusions. And I think that's what's important, and that's why it's important. We have talks like this. We couldn't be more different in our approaches to things, but we come to the same conclusions and we understand what's been done here. And what's been done is they've developed this idea within Kabbalah, and they've twisted and contorted it. And they've fed it forward through these different occult channels and had it largely adopted by these people. And it's taken on a life of its own at this point.

So the the whole point being here is regardless of whether this stuff is true or not, and most of the time, it's not, and you find this when you research a lot of different occult topics like this. Oftentimes, it's not, but the important point is there's enough people that have put enough energy and belief into it that they've kinda brought it into manifestation. And it is a principle known in magical circles as an egregore or a tulpa or something like that, whereas it becomes an animated spirit unto itself. It's about the thought forms, and I've done innumerable studies into the the notion of how these thought forms become manifest and take on this energy and begin to shape themselves into something like this. And we see that going on across the board.

Another good example of the same kind of thing going on is look at the works of Paracelsus and how this was also engrafted by the same people in that same time period. And you could start naming some names with this stuff in the mid to late eighteen hundreds. It's all the same circle of people, the theosophists and, that type of ilk of people that were were taking a lot of these ideas and applying them in a different direction, and it took on an energy in life of its own. Another perfect example, like I was going to cite, it has to do with the works of Paracelsus, where he wrote about elementals.

And largely, do you know where the systems that these magical fraternities and occult groups have, where they come from from this notion of elementals? They come from a fictional work titled the Comte de Gobelis that talks about this very subject, about elementals and the the different forms that they take on, sylphs and, the the other ones, salamanders and gnomes, the the air, the sprites, all of these different things. I forget all the different names that were supposedly lifted from Paracelsus where he talked about some type of a natural intelligence that guides and directs certain things.

But this work of fiction is largely what catapulted it to mainstream occultism. And now you have groups like the OTO. They perform actual rituals and rites at the highest most levels in their degree systems where they have sex with elementals, supposedly. Because you see how they engraft the sex magic idea into all of that, and they they marry themselves to this this elemental, and they think they're doing some kind of a service to this being, to this entity, this intelligence that may or may not really exist. But they've they've given it this type of a life. And you find this a lot, and it's all based on a work of fiction that was talking about this. It was a type of satire. The person who wrote the book wrote it as satire.

And and what that means, CompTetagabalus, the the count of Kabbalah is is essentially what that means, if my memory serves me correctly. The Count of Kabbalah, and it's, I think it's a German book. I I've read the whole thing from from beginning to end because I was fascinated with this study. And then you have guys like Manley p Hall are quoting from this stuff, and a lot of people in the modern occult organizations and secret society groups, they think this is factual, and this is what this is all based on. And they act as if it is. And this kind of thing projects their energy to that, and they get some kind of a response from the other side, from the invisible worlds, from the spirit realm. And you have to wonder, what is it really? They think they understand what they're dealing with, but they don't. And that's the whole bottom line here. And I'm not I'm not disregarding anything supernatural by any means. I most certainly have seen supernatural stuff in my day.

[00:37:50] Where are the the accusations coming from, Wayne? And are they, like, because, you know, we're we are in an era where the last, I don't know, ten, twelve, maybe fifteen years, people really have turned their eye towards this specific kind of of research and trying to dig into understanding more complex questions. But, let let's say specifically in the era in which the text itself was released, can we can we look at or or can there be pointed to, major pushback in the era?

[00:38:37] Well, we we see usually surrounding this stuff, you'll find a couple key figures that are the ones that promote these ideas. And, yeah, I I suspect they did get some pushback from various places. Mostly the organized religions and stuff like that, I would say, were the ones that were giving them pushback on these ideas because this wasn't something they openly discussed out there in public theaters or something like that. This is something that they kept within the auspices of these secret society groups and occult fraternities, and they claim to be the only way where you could access this information. They've took a lot of the old concepts, which predate all of these Kabbalah ideas and everything, and they've hidden them away within different writings and stuff in their different secret society groups' libraries and things like that.

So a lot of this stuff remained hidden for a very long time within the bounds of the secret society groups, and the ones who control the high levels of initiation in the secret society groups are the ones that primarily control the information. And here's the other kicker with all of that. All these secret society groups and occult fraternities, they knowingly and admittedly lie to their lower level members about what it is they're they're talking about with a lot of the symbols and a lot of the different meanings of the rituals and stuff that they do. And yet they for some reason, these people think that as they achieve higher ranks within the fraternity, that somehow they're unveiling the secrets to them then. The big secret behind all the secrets is that there's really no secret, and that's the biggest thing I've discovered.

They don't know. All of these people, they don't know. They make assumptions, and they act like they know what they're talking about. And oftentimes, that's enough to give them influence and sway and power in this world, and they tap into things they don't understand. And, I think it's important to look at some of these concepts that we would call magic with a scientific frame of mind because there are those out there who studied this and have actually been able to reveal a a proof of concept with many of these things. They don't understand why it works, but it does work. And I think this has been a commodity throughout the the history of mankind. Magicians don't necessarily know what it is they're contacting or what they're doing or why it works, but they do know that it works. If you do certain prescribed things, you will get this result. It's a type of causal engineering. And one of the people that I respect very much who's looked into this in the modern era is doctor Stephen Skinner, and he goes at this with a scientific viewpoint and an approach.

And he'll tell you he doesn't know why it works. He's just been able to prove in laboratory experimentation that it does work for some reason. If you do these things prescribed by the various different older books that they have, these these different grimoires and things like that. If you do the prescribed spell within the grimoire, it works. He doesn't know why, and he doesn't know how, but he does know that it works. And a lot of what we have seen come to fruition in the modern era, in my opinion, because of the influence of these certain occultists at certain time periods is the result that we, I think, are beginning to understand a little differently today in terms of people who are are studying this in the modern era. It's something they call chaos magic.

Doesn't magic matter what system you apply to it. You just have to have your belief in that system and put your faith in that system, and it will be able to produce results. And you have to adopt certain, I guess, what what you would call maybe spirits that you apply to different concepts in that way, which represent natural energies. This is largely something that has come about just in recent years. Like, I'm talking since about the nineteen sixties. They developed this system of what they call chaos magic, and they claim that it works. And they they don't have any particular mythology or something they ascribe to. Oftentimes, they invent their own mythology, or they take other works of fiction and apply it forward.

But the problem is they sometimes do get some results, and therefore that encourages them to keep going forward with this. So is this the same kind of thing where you have the energy being applied to it and it produces this notion of an egregore of sorts? Or they have other terminology for this. Aggregor is kind of like a low level energetic manifestation in that way. There's higher level ones that they talk about as more people actually provide those thought forms to feed this egregore. So it's an interesting concept for sure, and I don't claim to have all the answers with this stuff. I've been looking at it from a lot of different vantage points myself, and I think there's something behind it that's maybe a little more insidious that tends to give some power into this line of thinking and reasoning with things. But, certainly, we see how oftentimes people get involved with this stuff, and then then it takes on a life of its own, and it begins to dominate their lives.

You you'll get that a lot if you talk to people who have come out of these different occult fraternities and stuff like that, who've walked away from it. They oftentimes still have problems that pertain to the things they've done because of what they've actually allowed to enter into their life, the the energy that they've allowed around them. It attracts more of the same to them. So it's an interesting way of thinking, and we see this across the board. And I think we maybe circled away from the topic at hand here a little bit. No. That's totally fine. Yeah. It's important that we suss these things out because it's so much involved with it. It it seems to me that regardless of the point, it has no basis in fact or history a lot of times. It still doesn't mean it's not effective, and that's what the occultists of the modern era have brought forward.

They still invoke these same archetypes, and there is an underlying archetype behind it. But they give it different names, and they they move it forward and develop these systems on it. Another perfect example of this would be the Roman system. The Romans, they took old Greek mythology, applied new names to the figures they're in, made a couple of changes, and brought it forward into their system that they operate under. And we see there's so many different mystery schools that evolved at that time that had differing belief systems and stuff like that that they were able to invoke different responses from people that it it became so muddled over the course of time that all of these mythologies have been comparatively brought into the fold with that kind of thing because it's all about these these small secret society groups that wanted to instantiate power for themselves and control over the people. So they would take this mythological archetype, and they would use it to control and manipulate people.

And they would work these systems wherein they would feed the energy to it, and then things would happen. And they noticed things were happening and that it works, and they don't quite understand why, although you'll have people that claim to understand why. And that's where we get the problem. So you get your your gurus and your select few people who claim to know some things about this stuff, and they put things down on paper in book form. And they hide it away in their secret archives and libraries, and they teach it to their students. And then their students take it forward, put their own little twist and spin on it, and then you wind up with all kinds of complicated and convoluted ideas like we have today within the heart of these various occult fraternities and secret society groups.

Now there are some things that they have derived this from from antiquity that were known commodities to a lot of people in the early days, but now they've misapplied these and inverted them from what some of the original intent was.

[00:46:56] Anyway, I have another option for me. To to bring out.

[00:47:00] So one of the reasons that what was said before is important is not once you've dissected that this isn't the original myth, this isn't the actual figure, that means somebody made this shit up. Why did they make that up, and why did they want you to feed power into that thing? There's a there's a distinctive purpose to that. This is not something that's from a natural story anymore. This is something somebody's concocted for a reason. What is that reason? I think I have an example of a possible reason. On screen, we see

[00:47:37] activist Jex Blackmore took an abortion pill on live TV.

Whether it went viral or not, I don't know. Her group of people who are making art together, they're doing some performance art and activism together. Yes. Yes. So they have a lot of sock puppet accounts, and they'll upvote their stuff on Reddit, And they'll repost and and make it look like there's a conversation happening organically when it's really just a handful of people with multiple accounts acting like there's a big story here. This person would probably be forgotten if they didn't publish their own videos over and over and over again.

Her big stunt was to go on live TV, and I have that video if we need to see it. And then she takes a pill, glass of water, swallows it, and just announces that she performed a live abortion on a news broadcast.

[00:48:35] Now with the Nobody got her pregnant.

[00:48:38] We are pregnant.

[00:48:39] Oh, bullshit, lady. This is a very goth name, very, goth coded. It's it's connected to some version of some kind of satanic temple or church or something. So we're talking about inversion. The satanic principle is inversion of the Christ principle, this type of a thing. So she's taken performance art to a a whole new level to say that now combining with what Grimes is saying, this techno homo thing, we have the choice with medications, puberty blockers, all these things where, chemically, we can alter our body, our hormones, and the natural order of things.

And I think this is what Wayne was getting on with. And so this is a real example of the teachings and the ideas from from Lilith to Jezebel to the other one, Delilah. We could talk a little bit about Delilah and and all the the baddies of the Bible and how they influence satanic women today.

[00:49:40] Well, yeah, that's because they've largely adopted these as archetypes to work from. That that's the whole thing. It's all about that spirit of rebellion when it comes down to it, that Lucifer spirit. So, essentially, this is a feminized version of that Lucifer spirit is what they've tried to manufacture with this Lilith archetype, and, certainly, we we see that. And, I mean, look at look at the names these people give themselves because I assure you, she was probably not named that when she was born, Jex Blackmore.

That's a name that somebody takes on for themselves, and this is an important concept within many of these occult fraternities and secret societies too. They like to give themselves new names when they've been initiated to certain levels or they like to give themselves certain titles. And all of this like what?

[00:50:30] Like the pope?

[00:50:31] Like, exactly like the pope. You're not gonna get an argument with me from from from me on that one. I I agree. It's there there's something a little bit suspicious that goes on within the the Vatican there too. Leo?

[00:50:47] Yeah. What a great guy. Yeah. Okay. We'll jump you in.

You can be a part of our gang gang, but you have to take a different name. Exactly. Can't know you by your government name, dawg.

[00:51:04] Exactly. It's all about the name game. Because here's the thing, When you give a name to something that gives you power over that thing, whether it be a person or a thing, and you could find this example given in the first book of the holy bible where God gives Adam gives man dominion over all things here. And what's the first thing he has Adam do? You name everything. So Adam names everything. That gives him power over it. This is an important concept, and it's something that's adopted within these occult fraternities and stuff too. How do you Why do they give you and dominion,

[00:51:40] and is there a difference in your opinion between power and dominion?

[00:51:45] Well, this is all part of the spiritual hierarchy of things if you wanna use the language in that way. But man has been given dominion over the earth. That is the the term that's used in the Bible. That means that gives him control essentially over these things. He could make the earth submit to him. And and this is all part of how man was created in the image of the creator because the creator has all things subject to him. So as a a a smaller version of that in and of ourselves, we have dominion in this place, in this creation that we have been placed in. So we have dominion.

But in order to have dominion, in order to have power over a thing, in order to have influence over a thing or be able to affect a thing, first, you'd have to give it a name. And that's an important concept here, and and that's something we see that is prevalent within these secret society groups. So now they give this person, know

[00:52:47] that

[00:52:49] person's name. And this is alluded to in the bible too. This has to do with something called the tetragrammaton as well, the the unspeakable name of God. If you know the unspeakable name of God according to the old Kabbalistic traditions and stuff, that gives you immense power over this entire creation because you can make your petitions to God, and he will have to perform those for you according to what they say within many of these occult fraternities and these Kabbalists. I don't necessarily believe them with a lot of what they say, but this is one of the carrots that they dangle in front of people all the time. So there's a lot of symbology and stuff involved with all of that. But, certainly, to give somebody a new name gives you some type of a power over them, especially if it's a secret name that gives it a lot more sway because there's only a select few people that will know what that secret name is.

And, therefore, it's kinda like this inner circle kind of idea, whereas you're held to account by your secret name according to your secret name with the, occult fraternity or the secret brotherhood, and you're bound by blood oaths that you make to this. They they do all of these things, and they're it's all based on nonsense. It's all based upon a principle that I call synthetic initiation. They've taken a natural principle that was inherent in this natural creation. We all go through a sort of natural initiation in this world, in this life. It's through life experience, and everybody's initiatory path is supposed to be different because we're all individuals.

What they've done is they've systematized this process, and they've turned it into a one size fits all initiation ritual within these occult fraternities. It's totally fake. It's totally synthetic. And then they claim to be the only ones that can lead you down the path to this secret knowledge, and you have to go through their initiation rights to do so. Which they have not achieved yet themselves. Exactly. It's all a lie. It's all based on fraud and manipulation, and that's part of where the magic comes in because they do perform these types of things. They have immense control over the initiate in certain ways because now they had you swear a blood oath.

They threaten you. They'll tell you if you reveal the secrets of the fraternity, you'll be killed. We'll get William Morgan. They'll point to him. They'll say, look what they did to him, the Freemasons, and you'll know. Look at the Jack the Ripper killings. They point all these things out, and they'll tell you that they tell you exactly how they're gonna do it. They'll ritually do it in certain ways, and they threaten you with that. Therefore, you keep your mouth shut, and, hopefully, you get some of the the secret information portrayed to you.

And here's what I find the most interesting of all with these things. Now in the very beginning phases, when these secret society groups and occult fraternities try to recruit somebody, and they'll tell you, we don't recruit. You come knock on the door and you ask, and then we'll take a vote whether we'll let you in or not. But they do kinda recruit whether it's, a direct recruiting or not. And it's especially if you belong to one of these softer type groups like the Freemasons, the Blue Lodge of the Freemasons that they recruit from. But they recruit based upon certain principles. And when they first begin to recruit people from the outside that maybe don't have any inclinations into the occult at all, they'll tell them things like, oh, okay. Well, the Bible and all of these different stories that we we base our our systems upon and our traditions upon. Well, it's all allegory.

It's all just allegory. It's analogy. It's all just stories, fictional stories that portray different types of moral points within them. And they string these people along early on with that, telling them it's all allegory. There's nothing supernatural, that all of this stuff is just the tradition, and it's all got this hidden meaning, and it's all just literary, and it's all just symbolic. And they string them along until they get to the higher levels. They get beyond the blue lodge, and then they start to tell them, actually, there are supernatural powers that you can acquire through initiatory rights if you follow our teachings, and they dangle that carrot before them.

So then they make an admission to supernatural things. They'll say, yes. We we are the only ones that can do that. We have the knowledge. We have the training. We can teach you the soul science so that you could perform these miraculous works and perform the magic. But it's only through our system and through our ascended masters and our teachers that you could learn how to do this, and then you'll see the true power of all of this stuff. So they're liars and disingenuous on the face of it, and they convince a lot of people to turn their backs on anything spiritual, which I think is the biggest crime of all. Because in the early phases of recruiting people or or getting people initiated into the lodge, they teach them that this is all there is. With this physical reality in which we live, they they encourage that idea, this hypermaterialist paradigm, that there's nothing spiritual that goes on. There's no supernatural power. There's no creator per se. You just have to believe in a creator to be a freemason.

You just have to believe in a god. You don't have to say what god it is. They don't care about that. But then they teach you secular humanist ideas, and they teach you all of these atheistic type principles early on in the blue lodge. And they tell you it's all just symbolism. It's all just the wisdom of man, that there's nothing supernatural or spiritual about it. And they divert a lot of people from spiritual paths in this way. And then the ones that they get on the hook with the spiritual paths, they take them down a dark road through this synthetic initiation, and then they introduce them to these occult ideas that have been circulated by a select few people in the different historical periods that have put these systems forward, and they lead them down this this wrong path in my view. But that's enough of me rambling. I'd love to hear your thoughts on things.

[00:59:15] Got a lot of thoughts. And to bring up the symbolism and the name, there are a series of clinics that provide, private and safe services to women. The title of the clinic is a Lilith clinic. What type of services do you think a Lilith clinic in, let's see, Nevada, Las Vegas, Portland, Oregon, and Seattle, Washington? What sort of services, outpatient care do they provide Lilith The Shmoorstens?

[00:59:44] It would have to be empowering, whatever it is. Right?

[00:59:47] Yeah. It's they got the power to destroy their own seeds, their own offsprings. That's awesome.

You're great. So impressive. So very, very impressive. Empowered. Marcus and I have had the privilege twice of being in some interesting conversations. One was about the most. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We well, we've been in a lot of them, but that pertain These are your top two? That that pertain to this. That pertain to one of these was, with somebody that got to see the original documentation that the Rosicrucians based their their provenance off in order to become a secret society. And it was a forgery, because, it was at the time, in order to be considered particularly viable in the occult, you know, upheld, you had to have somebody from Germany that was that was gonna sponsor you.

And so, it was this was the name. Well, the guy who actually got to go in and look at the actual documentation that Marcus and I got to talk to, the in German, verbs have a masculine and a feminine. And so he said as they're translating this and looking at it, all the verbs were in masculine. So he said when we got to the end, we're like, Fraulein Spranger. Wait. Wait. What what kind of what what? What is going on here? And so the the person who had forged it wasn't familiar enough with German in order to understand the intricacies of the language and didn't put the the feminine verbiage or just we're so used to using the masculine verb because they're the men they're a man that they didn't put in the feminine verb, which is what a woman would do. And so that was absolute forgery. And then we got to, talk to one of the he was a real bigwig in the OTO.

Guy's been on History Channel. There's documentaries about his stuff. Oh, it was all bad, Wayne. I lit this guy up like a fucking birthday candle. Like, oh, it was bad. The guy doesn't know anything, anything. And he even admitted in his story, he wrote his his first books. The only reason they got published was because one of the under members of the OTO wanted to become one of the big wigs. And he said, well, you want that promotion, then you're gonna have to be publishing my book. And so his book got published in that way, not because it was well done, not because the information was good or right, but because he twisted the arm of somebody else in order to get them into it, which also means that person wasn't worthy of being in that position, which is what's happened over and over and over.

[01:02:53] Right. And and we see this carries over into society too, doesn't it? That kind of thing where it's it's the old boy system. The masons, you you you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. You get a square deal down at the car dealership. You get the promotion ahead of a non mason. All of these kind of things do go on. And I've have found actually through the course of time and researching this stuff, oftentimes, even the high level members associated with some of these secret society groups, they don't even know what it is they believe, and they cannot back up their stance on things or why they believe what they believe or or what they've been shown that has proven to them any of this.

They're faking it. A lot of it are it's fake it till you make it with these secret society groups. And that is something that gives them this type of power over the the more gullible people beneath them coming up through the system that somehow think this guy knows something I don't. And that's something I've encountered just in life in general. I used to think when I was young that there were adults and stuff like that had it all figured out. They knew what they were doing. That they're all flying by the seat of their pants. It's the same thing with these weirdo occultists out there who claim to be these high level masters of this and that and know this, that, and the other thing and make these claims. They don't know what they're talking about most of the time. They're faking it till they make it. And this is where a lot of people get their information from and their teachings and stuff from with this stuff. And then they wonder why they're just never quite good enough.

And that's the whole thing with these secret societies. This is how they keep stringing people along through the system. Maybe if if you follow your teacher's directions verbatim and your heart is pure enough and you you want this bad enough and you study hard enough, maybe someday, eventually, you'll develop one of these occult powers, but you're just not quite good enough. I'm sorry. But if you keep doing what I tell you, then maybe someday you'll get there. This is how they string people along. That's the carrot that they dangle in front of them, and people eat it up. Those that are trying to seek some type of control over their lives, those people that feel like they're they're, I don't know, victims of life, that these are the people that they they prey upon in these occult fraternities. Many people that get involved with, especially these darker occult fraternities that seem to fetishize these sex rituals and stuff like that.

They're they prey upon these people that are are playing the victim that they feel like they're a victim. They have no control over other aspects of their life. So they think that somehow joining one of these occult fraternities will give them magical power and the ability to transform something in their lives, and it really doesn't. It just leads them down this darker path and makes them manipulated by higher level members of that order. Now maybe they have somebody to to cry in line to and complain to and and maybe help them out here and there with certain things, but it it doesn't pan out how they ever expect. I've seen this over and over again with a lot of these people that involve themselves with this stuff.

And it's it's it's really insidious on the face of it, especially when you realize, hey. This guy is supposed to be high level and know what he's talking about, and he can't even tell me some of the history about this. You find that more and more. Like, the vast majority of freemasons, they have no clue where these ideas come from, that they've been taught in the Blue Lodge or what it's all about or what it symbolizes. They think they know because that's what they were told, but then you could show them where Albert Pike says we we lie to the lower level members until they hit the twenty ninth degree about what the meanings are of the symbols and stuff, but they they think they know. And we want them to think that they know because that keeps the the secrets protected, the alleged secrets.

And and it just it frosts me to no end because when you actually dig deep enough into this stuff and explore the historical roots of it, you find that most of it's based on fraud or fiction, and and that's the bottom line. It doesn't mean that there's no power inherent in what they've brought forward even though it is based on fraud. But when you begin to question the foundation of it and when you could smash apart the foundation of it, that takes all the power right out of it. It takes all the life and breath right out of the whole thing, and they don't like that. They don't like to be questioned like that. So oftentimes, they will avoid answering questions directly about what it is that they believe and what they do, and that's one of the reasons why they keep the secrecy. They don't want the gig to be up. They still want people that are vested in this thing to believe that they're somehow going to benefit from it, and somehow this group has some type of special place in the world.

And they don't want that illusion destroyed. So they they keep the secrets, and they say those people don't understand. They're profane. They're not going to believe anything you tell them about it. They think it's nonsense, and they keep the the secrets. They keep their mouth shut because they've been threatened. First of all, they've taken blood oath. Second of all, they're compromised, third of all, because oftentimes these people get involved in things where they could use it as blackmail later for them. So a lot of times, they keep their mouths shut, and they don't spill the secrets, and they just go along to get along within these groups. And it it's all designed based upon this manipulation of people. And I I think we did stray a little away from the main topic again, but this will right on topic. We're we're This is our target. Right. Well, the this whole Lilith thing is kind of the next level of that because now they've devised this whole movement in the greater social order, the social culture in and of itself that has adopted these ideologies, this militant feminism, which is ultimately a a death cult. That's what it is. It's a death cult. It's based in eugenics, and it's a death cult. That's the spirit behind it. And they've adopted it as if it's a positive thing that it's somehow empowering or reaffirming their place in this this reality.

And it leads, of course, to this transhumanist push that we're seeing. And and you can see how these things align in those different ways.

[01:09:26] So I'll shut up now and let somebody else talk. Oh, we we appreciate all all the talking. And there is a dark irony that is happening in these lodges, whether it's, like, an OTO, auto auto template or rentis, or some new witch's coven where they have a male leader who's, like, king witch or some new folk group or whatever it is. This this dark irony exists where the story of Lilith says that Adam insisted that Lilith play a subservient role to him. He's the husband. She's the wife. So Adam says, I'm the husband.

Serve me, subservient role. And then Lilith is said to have grown wings and flew away from meat, and she flies the coop. She leaves the house. She just packs her bags and leaves. In these orders, these secret groups, these, OTO groups, covens, whatever you wanna call them that have grades, they have orders, they have hierarchies, they have positions. The new members are told to be subservient. So these women who are strong and feminist and ready to do anything, they want they wanna join a coven. They wanna be in the in group, and then they have to play a subservient role while idolizing Lilith who grew wings and flew away from anybody who told her to take her place in the kitchen, perhaps.

[01:10:46] Lilith gives you wings just like Red Bull, apparently. Right? Yeah.

[01:10:51] And it wasn't over at making a Sammy. It was over, you know, no. Lay on your back and sit there like a fish.

[01:11:00] Like, like, what's That's that's the point of this role of her being the patron saint of what it, what it was in Ulysses. Remember that book that that guy wrote? Ulysses is you can't read the book because it's all poetry. He calls her the patron saint of abortions, Lilith. So Lilith being the stand in for women's bodily autonomy and choice and rights and things, if Lilith is then saying, I don't wanna have your children, Adam, I just I wanna be let's just not have kids. Let's not do that. And Adam says, well, we were told to be fruitful and multiply. You're my wife. We're in this union together, and now you're not providing offspring.

This isn't working out. So before she could get fired, she quits the job, packs her bags and flies away. She leaves the group. So this character of Lilith is so misunderstood by empowered women who wanna be in these groups together. And Lilith in the story is a woman who doesn't get along with anybody. She doesn't make any compromise. She doesn't think there's anything wrong with her lifestyle, her choices, the way she dances at the party, all the choices she wants to make and impose on everybody else. But when it's time for her to say, well, we are in a group, we're in a family, we're in a community, we need to kind of let other people make choices and agree and get along. She's like, nope. I'm Karen. I'm number one. I'm gonna talk to your manager.

I deserve more respect. You're not respecting me, and then she just storms off and leaves. It's like the guy who in Dusty's chat the other night, pulls out his gun and starts firing bullets off into the nowhere because he gets so angry. He worked up just like, yeah. Why are you giving this guy money? He's taking our stuff for free, and you're giving away all secret. It just he got so worked up. And Lilith is saying, Adam, wrap your willy. Adam, I need some I need to not have children. I need to know that I'm not going to be a mother.

And Adam's like, you're going to be the mother. You're my wife. And this sort of rebellion from motherhood is what the Lilith feminist icon

[01:13:25] symbology seems to be explaining this idea that modern woman seems to get the morphing because that's not even in the original story. Like, they've now morphed that into that because I'm pretty sure you can get pregnant from other four positions besides missionary. Fair fairly sure that that's not how that works. You motherfuckers.

[01:13:49] Pun intended. Oh, boy.

[01:13:51] And Okay. The, the the A little cat comedy right there. Oh, yeah. Freaking just they're on nonsense right now because they're punching up. It's spring and, like, earlier in the show, they're literally alpacas in the garden. Like, are you serious right now?

Like, you know, because they're just ridiculous. And I, Dee Ciccone had put in the chat about what do we what do we do with this? Where do we go from here? So this is what this is is we can understand that, somebody's tried to lead you down this path, and this isn't the original path. So by looking at the original symbology of things because I agree that symbology is the key to a lot of these things. But the thing is is they've twisted all that symbology. So you go we start going back through and taking those things out of the symbology, and now we can see this in see it for what it is, what it actually represents.

And now we under that we understand that we can start mapping our way back forward out of this path that somebody else has dragged us down, because we don't wanna be there. It's not a great place. Look at how fucked up shit is. Look at these people like the Owen Benjamin fans in the chat. Like, where did they come from again? It's been, like, years since I talked to any of those people. And it's like it's like a herpes just flared back up. I mean, what the fuck?

[01:15:34] Well, here's the thing. What they did is they took the archetype of Lilith, and they inverted it, and they presented it in the modern culture as the divine feminine. This is anything but the divine feminine. Let's put it that way. This is not a feminine energy at all. This is a rebellious spirit of sorts that's behind this. So this goes counter to the natural order, and that's the important point. The the image that is Lilith, the icon that is Lilith, the symbol, is all about the inversion process of the natural order of things. It's all about bringing about this new synthetic reality that the people that have put this forward want to bring into being.

It's a a big fake. It's a big phony. It's the inverse of the natural order of things, of natural law, And this creation cannot tolerate that, plain and simply. But here's the thing. They wanna build a new reality all around this, this holy synthetic reality, and this translates into the transhumanist movement really at the end of the day with all of that. That's essentially what they're building, and this has been described as the world of shells by those within the systems of Hermeticism and Kabbalah that are trying to bring forward some of the old original meanings of things.

So what does this mean, the world of shells? They want to build a sort of new subreality of this natural world wherein there is no spirit inherent there. It's a world devoid of spirit. It's all about the manifestation of form as it is here, matter. It's the hyper materialist paradigm. It's the straw man identity. It's the forgery, the fake, the digital world, the digital reality, the metaverse, all of this stuff all tied up in that idea. It's not divinely inspired. It is an inverse creation to that, and it is essentially hell on earth because it is devoid of spirit. So this is what is being brought into existence through the inversion of this symbol that is Lilith. And we could actually probably talk about what some of the older traditions that have emerged from Kabbalah now talk about with this, about the figure of Lilith and how it pertains to things that we understand today and what the spiritual side is of that that is kind of negated in the story they give us about how she was Adam's first wife when, in fact, that's not really the case when you explore this back further.

So I I don't know if you had anything else you wanted to discuss here going on or what.

[01:18:25] I'm laughing because the the the Owen Benjamin fans creating doing nonsense in the chat just met Steve Mercer. He just came in smashing.

[01:18:39] Shout out to Steve. I haven't heard from Steve in a long time. I hope he's doing well.

[01:18:43] Oh, Steve's the Steve's the shit. Steve's the shit. He came in with his hammer. He just started laying waste. I, 100%. And I would the the groups that Wayne mentioned earlier, like the Theosophical Society, if when you go and you actually study their their, charter, their what their intention is, is their intention always was to subsume all religions, all myths, all cultures, and smush them into one thing and then lead that thing forward.

One of the easy examples of this is gonna be like the great white brotherhood. They invented that entirely. The where, basically, you're it's like it's like super friends, only it's mythological god figures. And they're all waiting up in Shambhala, which is this awesome place waiting for things to get just horrible enough here for us, and then they're gonna come down and just make it all awesome. Like, they had to wait for it to get really bad, for us to get really fuckered before they come do it. Like, they can't just do it now. They're up there partying. But the this is on purpose so that way there's a very surface level understanding of anything.

And you can just pick and choose whatever gods you want, like their Pokemon, and just start activating them. And here's here's the the fact. Let's put a real mind to this. If you're this overwhelming, super powerful creature, I'm a of any kind, whether you want to call them gods or anything. Would you appreciate some creature that has no power compared to you? I'm just being like, hey, dude. Come help me. Do this thing for me. And then you don't even hold a loyalty to him. You're like, oh, yeah. Now that I'm done with this Pokemon card, oh, tomorrow, I'm gonna pick Isis, and then I'm gonna pick this one and this and and so in no way are you giving your energy to them in that way. So you're not actually being, worshipful or anything to any of these beings.

Why would they ever lend their power to you or listen to you or care in any way, shape, or form you fucking ant compared to a god? Like, why?

[01:21:11] Yeah. Essentially, when you think about it logically like that, what you're saying stands to reason. Why would like, think of it from our point of view compared to an ant. Now we have this ant that keeps coming and pestering us on our countertop or something in the kitchen, keeps coming over to us and wants something. What are we gonna do? We're gonna squash that ant because it's it's a bother to us, and it's it's it's not convenient for us. And we don't understand what it wants anyway, and we have no relation to it.

So it's the same kind of thing going on. So you have these occult fraternities and stuff. They they like to invoke these different powers or or things like that, archetypes, and pretend somehow they have some type of control over them. I am such a mighty powerful magician that I can call down such and such spirit or whatever to perform this duty for me. And and that's how they they kind of figure things work, but that that's not how it is. What are you giving back in return? Well, I bind them. I use the magic circle, and I bind them, and I command them because I'm just such a great magician or something like that. These people are delusional. Let's put it that way. They're delusional.

There's no all powerful entity like that. There's no powerful entity that is going to serve you. You're providing something for them. Okay? That's the bottom line. And if you think you're not, you're deceiving yourself. You've been fooled in this way, and so many fall down that path. So you're absolutely correct. I've never found anything that points to this great white throne brotherhood or the great white brotherhood or whatever they call themselves. There's no such thing. It was purely invented by the theosophists because what they tried to do is they tried to take eastern esoteric traditions and combine them with western esoteric traditions, and they just don't jive all the way.

So they came up with this system wherein their ascended masters can become some of the the white the great bright white brotherhood and ascend to Shambhala where they do important Shambhala things all the time because they can't be bothered with us. But someday, they'll come help us. Yeah. They're up there partying in Shambhala, doing Shambhala important spiritual things or whatever. And the Theosophical Society, in the meantime, they established a company that was originally called the Lucifer Trust, now called Lucius Trust. And this is the main publishing house for the United Nations the United Nations, and they have sway and influence in the United Nations. This is always what this group has been about, worldly power and control.

And it's out there in their charter, like Ben was saying. And they have this relationship with the United Nations and, in turn, the World Health Organization and all of those other sub organizations that work with the UN. And all of this has been pushed into the greater culture, the political spheres of things. If you think these secret society groups and the cult fraternities don't have any influence in politics, you're sorely mistaken. They have an abundant amount of influence within that because that's what they were founded for in the modern era. You see, they they want to subvert society.

They want control. They want to become gods in this place. They want to be able to wield that power that they so deviously seek after that they can't have, and they don't really know the secrets. So now they're trying to implement technology to bring it about. And that's why we have this transhumanist movement, and we have all of these things coming to fruition. That's why they're out there trying to develop these technologies and do these things to change and alter the human being fundamentally. It's all part of this synthetic knockoff system, this world of shells that they're seeking to develop. So that's part and parcel of what goes on with it. And you'll find that a lot of these people in the influential sphere spheres of the foundation of the Theosophical Society, they cross the bounds of many of these other secret society groups as well. They're all interconnected at the topmost levels, and that's what people seem to miss the boat on. Doesn't matter what a cult fraternity or secret society you belong to. The topmost levels of it, it's the same couple of people floating around between these different groups that are the ones that influence things at the lower levels of these groups. This is kind of the inner circle within the inner circle, what would commonly be referred to as the Illuminati by people who research this. Confirmed.

So there you go.

[01:25:58] % agree with this. A % agree. And, again, you they've shifted everything away from the natural. So what's happened in my opinion on that, the great work all these things are based on nature and that so everything derives from alchemy. And the great work includes taking and burning out the ego and then taking the sulfur and the salt and marrying them through the mercury. So you achieve this eternal life, this of this higher power through this natural natural process. I don't think that they because they've failed and failed and failed to make it, I don't think that they can't. And I think either do they. So they're trying to subvert this process and now go with this transhumanist where you are now preserving the the the soul in something that you didn't have to go through the great work to achieve. You get to implant it into something, and that something, can now be basically, mechanically whatever you want it to be. You could be a boy. You could be a girl because you're no longer actually tied to your DNA.

And they're looking at you as just a basic energy. And even all this, in my opinion, you can see came forward from the the same time period Wayne talked about at the at the beginning, where in the late eighteen hundreds, you had Elias Levi. It was the inventor of the, shit. What's his name? The The common Baphomet symbol? Baphomet. Yeah. So this is something that's invented by Elias Levi and made by him. And this entire, idea of hermaphroditism, it, springs from that. And this is a real problem, because that's not what the great work achieves. It does not make you hermaphroditic. Nothing is nothing's like that. It it doesn't work like that.

If you had a masculine energy before and you're you're gonna have a masculine energy after, which isn't to say that if you isolate your specific energy, we can't then once again have it and say this portion of it is more feminine reacting and this portion is more masculine reacting. That's the way the world is. Anytime you take something and you isolate it out, once you've isolated it, now you can isolate again because you can find discrepancies between the things now that you've isolated. We could take all the fucking white people and say, oh, let's just isolate white people. And now, oh, now there's boys and girls. Let's isolate boys. Oh, now these boys are more feminine. These boys are more masculine. Well, you could just keep isolating and isolating. It's just how it fucking works. So so understanding that doesn't mean that you're a hermaphrodite.

Or after achieving the great work, you're a hermaphrodite. That means that you have, in in in a perfect way, interlocked your masculine and feminine. And and the thing is is that's even an a misunderstanding in itself, in my opinion, because the, it's not the masculine and the feminine that are getting married. It's the two broken sides of the masculine. The masculine's unto itself. So the sulfur and the salt were both masculine. And the only feminine aspect in that is the mercury, and it's through the mercury that those two marry. And then the whole thing coagulates into they come back together, and then the whole thing coagulates into one. And in that, typically, like, when you look at an amalgamation, you could pull the mercury back off.

[01:30:06] Essentially, what you're talking about, Ben, if I am understanding correctly, is at the the core of all of it is what is known as the quintessence. Okay? We can pull that quintessence out over and over and over again because that is the actual core of being. It's not about this masculine principle or feminine principle at the end of the day. Well, what they these people, these dark occultists who run things in this world, the ones that have power and influence here are trying to achieve is the removal entirely of that quintessence from the equation and developing this world of shells devoid of any spiritual concern, devoid of the quintessence behind it. And that is what I find hugely compelling about all of this. It's it's it's taking what man truly is at his core and essence and removing it entirely and turning him into a synthetic being, a golem or a homunculus of sorts.

That's what their their version of the great work is all about. It's the inversion of what actually occurs within nature. So we do have, I think, if I'm understanding you correctly, this would be the unification of opposites, but it would still be both masculine sides of the equation. Whereas in my view and from the things I've researched about this, the feminine side will do the same thing on the spiritual side of the coin. The mirror image reflected from the spiritual realms or the invisible worlds into this reality here. You have the mirror process going on as well within that view of things. So when you understand this and know, it's it's always going to be an incomplete. There's never going to be that perfection on this side in the physical is what I'm saying. It's all about transcending the physical and doing it in the spiritual as the mirror of the physical and vice versa, as above so below.

So we have all of these different pairs of opposites, and I think it's important to study hermeticism to understand some of this. So you have these these polarities, and these people that try to do this are all about this unification of opposites, but they're just going about it in the strict physical sense here. They've tried to remove the quintessence from it, the spiritual portion from it. They're not doing the great work on the other side, on the spiritual planes, the invisible worlds. They're just trying to achieve the physical world of shells here and control that and exist here.

[01:32:39] And basically trap their spirit in this without actually slowing and doing the whole transformation. 100%. And, free free thinker 59, that isn't, really on Wayne. So Rockfin, anybody that didn't have their stuff put turned on premium, they axed them. Like, my channel on Rockfin, gone. And so because none of my stuff was on premium, Thanks. You Steve Steve put Wayne's Substack in there. I Rockfin got real shady when their coin went under.

[01:33:17] Rockfin did get real shady. I'm still on Rockfin, but I I post very, very sporadically there.

The best place to find me is actually on my website, www.alchemicaltechrevolution.com,

[01:33:31] and there's links to everything I do on there. It's a real website. I've been there. There's content available. It's always there. Say the name of the website again.

[01:33:42] Www.alchemicaltechrevolution.com.

[01:33:46] It's a good homepage. If you have a web browser and a computer set as your homepage, just bookmark it, pin that tab, just keep refreshing. There's always great stuff coming on. Wayne, I discovered that you have a a show you started back in December.

[01:33:59] Oh, yes. That that has been a a hugely successful so far collaboration, and it's been an interesting ride. My friend Richard Willett from over in The UK and I started a new podcast called Synchro Mystic where we take apart a lot of these different things that we're seeing happening in the world around us. And this is all based on a premise that I I tried to put a name to. So I call this premise synchromystic metadata, where you could see these disparate bits of information out there in the greater information field, which I like to call the zeitgeist, and you could connect the dots to ostensibly make predictions about future events and to understand the intentions of current events and past events.

And I think I've established good proof of concept with this in several different ways now. And we we've taken this vantage point and put it in podcast form, and we've had a really fantastic response. So it's it's been pretty successful, and it's just entirely eye opening to see some of the things that we could point out just using these disparate bits of information. Now a lot of people might not be familiar with the concept of synchromystitism I can't even talk. Synchromysticism or concepts like revelation of the method or predictive programming, these kind of things, you could see if you understand the language of symbology, you see certain things crop up over and over again out there, especially in the mainstream media. Now as a prime example, and this is one Richard and I have taken apart for several different episodes now going back a couple of months, the one that we see currently going on is all of this symbology about the arrival of the foundation of a new Rome or Roman Empire symbolized

[01:35:52] by the wolf. Remember The dire wolf that the the the dire wolf was tweaked with just gray wolves that they tweaked the DNA on. It wasn't actually dire wolves.

[01:36:03] Right. And do you know what they named them? Romulus and Remus. And then the sister too. Yeah. Those are a third wolf. Yeah. There was a third wolf. But they named they named that one after the chick from Game of Thrones. So out there, they're already throwing a fiction in with the the myth. See, this is kind of fun, though. This is a this is a form of fan fiction.

[01:36:26] I kind of have a little theory here. I'd like to lay it on you. You talked a little bit about, the large language models and the way that they have gathered all the available text documents on the Internet, whether through legitimate means or otherwise.

They've they've copied them. They've stored them. They've analyzed them, and then they've built the database of that. And with their large language model, you might call it a algorithmic intelligence and artificial intelligence, analyzing the text, creating mind maps to link concepts together, and now there's this idea of a of a hallucination. So you go to, Grok, DeepSeek, ChatGTP, and you say, the letter a plus the number two equals what? So then the large language model will take, okay, you got a concept of a number, you got a concept of a letter, and then they'll mash them together and say these are probable, predictable answers.

Do you remember using a cell phone and having, like, a t nine or some predictive text where you'd say, you type in how, you type in r, and then it would be you, and you just click the u and it it'd complete your sentence. So this computer is not exercising intelligence. It's exercising pattern recognition and memory recall to say. Statistically, you've got three words in a sentence. The fourth word is likely to be one, two, three, a, b, c, and then it'll spit out those options. And then based off of other, what you are calling, synchronic metadata, and computers, robots, web callers, search engines, Google, Yahoo, Lycos, Dogpile. Remember?

All these things would would search the Internet. They'd crawl through the text files on a on a website and say, what is the metadata? What is the keyword? What is the topic? And whether or not it is fiction or nonfiction, it doesn't matter. So we have a library of all the available books, including Nintendo Power magazine, GameFAQs, cheat codes for World of Warcraft, everything gets put into the same blender and everything sort of has equal weight in terms of its legitimacy. So in terms of, like, Wikipedia citations, if you have a citation, you're available on Wikipedia.

Can you cite yourself? You can cite yourself. So if you have a book and your citation is another book that you wrote, but you haven't written it yet, You see where this leads. And in recent news That's cool. Couple of revisions. Correct? Yes. It's it's a plus b equals it could be these options. Choose the one that you like best. It's a choose your own adventure novel, forgetting the fact that this is a fan fiction novel role playing experience. It's you're hallucinating a reality. The experience feels real. The chatbot is affirming your message, your beliefs, your feelings, and things, and and telling you this is great. If you argue with the chatbot and say, no. That is wrong, then it will spit out three other facts that you can choose to accept into your working system.

[01:39:52] Precisely. So you understand the basic technological explanation of what this is. Well, now apply that to the greater information field that exists all around us, the zeitgeist, the spirit of the time that we exist in in the actual natural creation. What they've done is some intelligence or or force or energy or being somewhere, whether it be a human being or I think there's a beyond human intelligence involved with this, has populated the information field with a lot of these synchronicity clues, which point to events that are coming about in the world, and perhaps it's helping to produce those events by focusing people's energies on that. And this is what I've been pointing out. This is what I refer to as synchromystic metadata because in our technological society, we understand the term metadata. We know what that's about. It's not directly something that is direct data for you, like concrete data, but it's metadata that leads you to the concrete data when it gets down to the brass tacks of all of it. So what has happened is we have this information field around us. You could call it what you want. People differ to the term that they like to call it.

The scientists might call it the quantum information field or genetic memory, epigenetic memory, things like that. The occultists will call it the Akashic record and various things like that. I prefer the term zeitgeist because there is a spiritual component to it, and that does simply mean spirit of the time. So if you find these different monkey style. What is that? Hundred monkey style. Exactly. Yeah. So it's it's the same kind of thing going on. So this information's out there, and it has an indelible effect on the unconscious human mind that somehow comes to fruition through the subconscious and later alters conscious behavior and might be something that they are able to leverage and use to manufacture new new, I guess what's what's the best way to describe this? New concepts into the world or new things happening in the greater consciousness field, if you will, if you wanna call it that.

It it brings about manifestation of whatever it is that the programmer who's putting the bits of metadata out there wants to come to fruition because people will focus their energy on it, their unconscious mind energy on it, and it brings it into fruition. So that's essentially the concept that explains this synchro mystic type thing that goes on. And as I was alluding to, I was talking about the emergence of this dire wolf situation and how the wolf being the symbol of Rome is not an accident. They put that out there. They actually named the wolves Romulus and Remus. And then a couple days later, and this was after Richard and I did, the the first broadcast on this whole notion of the dire wolf. Then this little clip, I'll play you the audio, shows up on a news program called Inside Edition.

And who's it about? It's about Elon Musk. Give this a listen.

[01:43:09] Is Elon Musk planning to father a legion of super babies? According to his newest baby mama, Ashley St. Clair, the world's richest man dreams of having enough children to save civilization. Ashley St. Clair is speaking out today, revealing the results of a paternity test that she says proves with 99.99% certainty that Musk is the father of her seven month old son. Just two weeks ago, Musk wrote, I don't know if the child is mine or not. Here he is, Ashley says, in a New York hospital holding baby Romulus right after he was born.

Musk has had at least 14 children with four women, 10 boys, and four girls. Hey. His four year old, little x, is the most visible. They go everywhere together, including the UFC event last weekend. And get this. According to the Wall Street Journal, multiple sources said they believe the true number of Musk's children is much higher, and he wants more. Ashley says that Musk suggested they use surrogates to make more babies faster to reach legion level before the apocalypse. She claims he solicits women to have his babies on his social media app. One woman says she turned him down Eli's Legion does it. Of his harem drama.

[01:44:34] Musk talked about his love of baby making at a recent conference in Saudi Arabia. I know you've been doing your part to maintain the birth rate in in The US. Yes. I am. I do have a lot of kids, and I encourage

[01:44:48] others to have those kids.

[01:44:50] We reached out to Elon Musk for comment, but did not hear back.

[01:44:55] And that's a mainstream news program. Notice his child his fourteenth child is named Romulus. Now is that a coincidence? This is what I'm talking about with synchronicity metadata. It's out there. It's been out there since at least January, this whole pointing to the reemergence of a new Roman Empire, and then the death of the pope comes about. And we have a new pope, and he took on the name Leo the fourteenth. Now if you wanna talk about the combination of the symbol of the lion and the wolf together, what that represents, it's it opens a whole new can of worms and reaffirms this whole notion of a new Roman Empire, and that, of course, will shift gears over here to America because now it's an American pope.

And, I've taken this apart, and Richard and I have done episodes on this, and I've done stuff on my own talking about that connection being made here and how it represents an alchemical wedding of sorts. It's the the alchemical wedding of the church and state. So you have this this Roman Empire represented by the lion and or represented by the wolf. Sorry. And now you have the new pope who took on the name Leo, the lion, the red lion, and Ben will know what I'm talking about, the red lion in the alchemical working. And you have this combination of things going on, and I I've done a whole series talking about things leading up to this, how the alchemical encoding is out there everywhere in this synchromystic metadata.

And all you have to do is look at that painting of King Charles that came out about a year ago. You remember that? The red king?

[01:46:34] Sausage fingers?

[01:46:36] Yeah. The red king. The the picture of the red king and how that all relates to this. And, of course, his mother was queen Elizabeth who had passed away. The white queen, by the way, there's another homage there for Ben that Ben, I'm sure, will understand.

[01:46:51] The white queen, the red king. These are all just phases of of performing the crisis. Exactly.

[01:46:59] And and all of this stuff has been encoded and pre echoed out there in the zeitgeist, and we're seeing some from some of this stuff coming to fruition right now. And, of course, they were talking about the installation of Trump as the president once again. And the very first day of the brand new year, they had those terror attacks in front of the Caesar's Superdome in New Orleans where the guy plowed a truck with an ISIS flag on it into people, you know, an electric vehicle, an electric truck. And then simultaneously in Vegas in front of Trump Tower, somebody lit a Tesla Cybertruck on fire. You remember that? When all that happened, this was all preechoing this. And then later on at that Caesar's Superdome where not coincidentally, the Super Bowl was held. For the first time in American history, a sitting president attended the Super Bowl there.

Trump at Caesar Dome, Caesar's Superdome. All of these things encoding this arrival of a new Roman Empire.

[01:47:57] So I mean, in fairness, it was the first time that the Super Bowl had been held there. But, yes, yes, it is significant that a sitting president went there for the the Super Bowl. That's correct. But it's not like it there there had been a storied tradition of, you know, for sixty three years, we've had the Super Bowl here. And then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, the president went and attended, it was the first and, as far as I know, only time. The the super so that may have more significance than if it had always been that way. I don't know. I but it does, like, the, you know, clarification as far as that goes is kind of important.

[01:48:50] Exactly. And that's the whole point. Like, all of these things have been pre echoed out there. And if you know how to read the data field, you could connect the dots and see what it is they're trying to build with this. So this is the intention embedded in the greater information field with this synchronicity metadata. So that's kind of the concept that I've been trying to convey to people. I've come up with a name for it because as we discussed earlier in the program, if you can give a thing a name, that gives you a type of control over it or power over it. So, therefore, if we give this a name, and now we have a system to work from and we can understand this a little better, we could maybe make some changes to things going on around us. We could remove our consent from their systems they're trying to build and implement. If you see the magician's trick, you don't fall for it. Right? And that's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to point this stuff out to people because I think it's important.

[01:49:48] I got a few things that I'd like to point out, and maybe we can play this synchro metadata game. I got a a few things to build upon your initial ideas. I'd like to bring your attention to the relationship between one Elon Musk and one Trump. You know, what is a Trump? When you play a Trump card, what does what does that mean? And with the name like El An, El, what is El from the the Old Testament? Is is that a god? E l l l Elyon?

[01:50:19] El Elyon. And I'm glad you brought that up because I actually for the first time, I usually my podcast is not an interview based podcast. The first time I actually interviewed a guest who her friend was listening to my podcast, and she reached out to me and said, I have a friend who needs to talk to you. And not knowing anything about this, I had produced some shows connecting Elon Musk to not only Petrus Romanis, but Rosemary's baby as well.

And this lady, she finally contacts me because her friend said you need to talk to this guy after I produce that. And she contacts me, and she claims to be Elon Musk's former babysitter nanny and that she knew his family and that his grandfather who is actually legitimately known to be one of the heads of the Technocracy Movement in Canada at that time who allegedly died in a plane crash in, like, 1974. She said he was alive and well until at least 1983, and she tells the whole story. And this is actually I didn't have a comment.

[01:51:29] Right?

[01:51:30] Yeah. Haldeman. Nathan Haldeman, I think, is his name. Well, she said he was involved at the Presidio with various things, and he was working with some different government programs. And she claims her grandfather was actually a bookkeeper for project paperclip, and that's how she got involved with this kind of stuff, and her family was involved with it. And it's an interesting story, and she is a survivor of satanic ritual abuse.

[01:51:56] And this kind of How do you I gave her a platform.

[01:51:59] Well, that's what her claim is, I should say. Okay. That's what she claims. But some of the things she was talking about, you really wouldn't know unless you're a die hard conspiracy researcher or you lived through it. Yeah. And I I have no reason to disbelieve what she told me. Well, you know,

[01:52:17] I'm not trying to to, you know, slight her story or take away from from what she went through. I'm just like, I'm I'm a curious sort.

And and, you know Me too, man. I I respect who you are as a researcher, and so I'm legitimately curious as to what, like, your particular process is for vetting that.

[01:52:40] Well, see, that's the thing. I I made it abundantly clear. I have no way of validating the things she's saying one way or the other. So I just wanted to give her audience so that she could tell her story. And, honestly, she has no reason to share her story. She hasn't gained anything financial or anything from it, and it's just she wanted to tell the world about what's going on. Guy on my show who claims that DB Cooper was his father.

[01:53:10] And he's got every legitimate claim in the world to that. And he's got he's been interviewed by the FBI a couple of times and, like, it it it he it might be it might be that his father was the it might be.

You know? And and I certainly treated him. I did the Art Bell thing. Yeah. Come on, dude. I'll give you a platform to talk about whatever you wanna talk about. We'll talk about it. If there's something super weird, I might push back. I'm gonna ask some questions, but I'm gonna treat you like a human being, and you're gonna have respect. And at the end of it, you're going to get to tell your story, and then we'll move forward.

[01:53:48] Exactly. And I did the same kind of thing out of courtesy because I think it's a story that really needs to to be told first and foremost, and I I invite anybody. Go listen to it. It's it's on my website. It's on, it's out there on Substack. It's out there on Spotify. It's on YouTube.

It's everywhere all over, and it's compelling the way she tells the story. Like, you could tell she really had some bad things happen to her in her background. And she lives she lives off she lives off grid in Oregon or something and has trouble paying her bills and everything and can't live a normal lifestyle be supposedly because of these connections and stuff she had. But she wanted to warn people about Elon Musk because she firmly believes, and she was allegedly told that he will be the one to introduce the mark of the beast.

[01:54:39] Oh, and Elon had, for a while, had a chunk of property in rural Oregon that happened to butt up against a friend of a friend's property.

I never got to go to the property to meet Elon. I've been to the property. Never when he was there, like, next door. God, I wanted to, dude. Oh, I wanted to.

[01:55:03] So All I wanna say about the situation is I've seen this coming, and Eli might have 14 kids, but you gotta understand every good Germanic is worth 10 or 15 Romans. That's just historical fact.

[01:55:18] Right? What are the South Africans? They're the Dutch. Right? What's what are the Dutch worth as far as a a German goes? Not much. Not much. Okay. Because they're hella big, dude. The Dutch are hella they're the tallest people, in Europe.

[01:55:34] Yeah. That's why you carry an ax. You, you know, you just Okay. Down. And so so, you know, I I got seven kids myself. He's got Bill Dykes doesn't mean they're all Dykes, Ben. Come on. Give him a little respect. A little bit. I've been trying like hell to make more. I don't know what's going on. I'll keep trying, though.

[01:55:54] Seems shallow. It does. Anyway,

[01:55:56] just to get back on topic here, the the reason the reason the procedure. Well, the reason I brought that up, though, is because you had mentioned El Elyon. Yes. And she claims that that was Elon's original name. Yes. That means lord god most high or something like that. Yeah. That's what that means. And his mother, May Musk, who she called aunt light Mhmm.

Told her that he she needs to call him that name. And it wasn't until later that he changed his name according to her story to Elon and shortened it from l Eliam.

[01:56:29] The Presidio was mentioned, was that in connection to 1983 and Nathan Helderman?

[01:56:35] Yeah. I if I'm not mistaken, I think he was working at The Presidio at certain points or with military intelligence with some programs related to MK Ultra or something like that is what she had claimed. Now he he historically, and this is recorded in the record, allegedly died in a plane crash in 1974. But she claims he faked his death and that he was working for the US government because He faked his own death.

Yeah. Because they didn't want him. Continue

[01:57:04] or to then take a position for the US government? I don't Or was that made clear?

[01:57:12] I I don't recall, like, what she said or or what the details are. What was his background

[01:57:18] prior to that? Like, what was he involved in that would lead up to him the necessitating, faking his own demise?

[01:57:26] Well, he was in a lot of trouble with the Canadian government because he was involved with a I think it was a corporation. It was a political movement or something called Technocracy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Literally called Technocracy. Technocracy. The Technocracy.

[01:57:38] Literally they tripped him out of Canada. Down. Yeah. No. That's

[01:57:42] absolutely true. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And this is this is absolutely historical fact. So he got kicked out of Canada. So she she was relating the idea that he faked his death, and then he was working for the US government under some secret program. And she only knew about it because her grandfather was a bookkeeper for project paperclip.

[01:58:00] So did did he go to South Africa First, establish the family, and then disappear? Or how did the family get to South Africa if the patriarch was

[01:58:14] on the land? Well, see, that's the thing. He he traveled, and he had citizenship

[01:58:19] on the road. South Africa First.

[01:58:22] I think so. I'm trying to remember. If you look at the mainstream historical account, it traces him to

[01:58:29] to Canada, South Africa. And this is actually May most. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. May most. I'm I'm quite familiar. Yeah. I've done a bunch of work on the technocrats in Canada as far as that goes. Yeah. He's got special words for it and everything. Technocratic

[01:58:44] penopticon.

[01:58:46] Oh, yeah.

[01:58:48] Those are all great words. I use those words too. Technically. We love these keywords. I heard Presidio, and I'm like, well, wait. I gotta know about that. What's going on? Presidio? Fucking bridge away from Presidio

[01:59:00] in San Francisco.

[01:59:02] I'm just I'm I'm on the non gay side of the Well, if if you wanna scrutinize if you wanna scrutinize what she had said, go listen to the interview because she's she spills a lot of beans in the interview about Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. I'm I'm I'm fascinated by this, man. Truly. Yeah. That was that was the call to action. Let's all download that, preserve it, put on USB drives. I gotta go look into the data. Yeah. See, I I think, my audience, I'm just small enough that I could get away with doing things like that and not getting, like, shut down or anything at this point yet. I've I've kinda flown under the radar with a lot of these things. So I I I do reach a lot of people, but it's still not what it should be if the algorithms were fair. Let's put it that way.

[01:59:50] I'd like to bring it back full circle because we got to Elon, his his, family tree a little bit, genetics. And mentioning Presidio, there's another figure, Aquino. Mhmm. And his wife partner, her name code name being Lilith.

[02:00:10] Jeez. Isn't that interesting? Mhmm.

[02:00:14] So we'll let, the the people go to dog pile and do some searching to figure out what details and facts and other synchro mystic metadata points they can put on their bullets and board and start connecting the lines together. And whether or not something is actual factual true or a larp, a live action role play ritual thing. It's all part of the the metadata with meaning and significance. We're talking about synchronicities, and those are usually, like, personal dream journals. And this means something to me in my map of my dream cartography, and I'm putting all this stuff together. It's very naval gazing and inward looking, and and that's one thing.

I had one more comment I wanted to to get into a little bit before I forget. I got all these notes I'm taking. We were talking a little bit earlier about some of the the hierarchies of old cult orders. So, like, OTO or Golden Dawn or just, some some witch's coven you might join through a Facebook group because you know somebody and you just wanna be a local, you know, pagan festival thing in the park. And this idea of, like, god forms, invocation, evocation, worship. But then we have this new concept of, TikTok witch, baby witch influencer who's like, you know what? I'm a pretty cool person, man. I'm gonna work with Lilith. So me and Lilith are on the same level. We are coworkers.

It's this energy to say, you know, I'm not the assistant to the assistant manager. I am co managing my life with Lilith or I'm co managing my life with Lucifer or whatever Pokemon or god form from World of Warcraft or whatever video game. What do you think about this idea of I'm working with this spirit? Like, one on one, we're on the same level. This hierarchy thing, we're on the same level.

[02:02:19] Well, what I would say about that is there are a lot of of people that are, first of all, delusional in those regards. And secondly, there there probably is some type of an evil spiritual influence involved in some of that. And this has to do with the archetype of Lilith as well as the archetype of Samael because when you get back into the traditions prior to the adoption of this story of Lilith being Adam's first wife, you find that actually there was a spiritual mirror image of Adam and Eve, and this was Samael and Lilith in the spiritual realms and that they had this type of reptilian essence to them.

And the combination of the two is called tan and ivory in the tradition. When they mate, allegedly, the story according to Kabbalah is that when they mate, that all the worlds will be destroyed, so they had to be separated. And this is one of the stories that goes with the Kabbalistic tradition so that what they've done in essence, if you actually research this stuff through what's claimed by many of the occultists about this, you find that what they do is they actually will indwell a human being, a human body, and copulate that way, the both of them. And this is what the story is. So this this is all about demonic possession in doing some of these sexual acts. So maybe we're seeing manifestations of this in the modern day, and maybe people are deluded enough to think they're involved with something good and they're allowing a walk in of this sort.

But at any rate, I have to actually take a couple minutes and step away, gentlemen. So Oh, no. Yeah. That's,

[02:04:06] two two hours is all we expect. Yeah. All we expect, brother. If you if you were, good for tonight, then

[02:04:12] Alright, man. Well, I should probably take off then, but I I could come back and talk for a couple more minutes. But maybe If you wanna come back, 100%.

[02:04:21] Come on back.

[02:04:23] Yeah. But, let's let me, yeah, let me just run. I'll come back in just a couple of minutes and Yeah. Take a short intermission. Okay. I could've I I can't stay too much longer. The log. For an encore.

[02:04:37] Alright. Don't forget go to the lobby Sure.

Let's all go to the lobby

[02:04:44] and have ourselves a stay. I had some Dresden Dolls songs lined up to play. Do you guys know Dresden Dolls? Oh, yeah. I do. Guys know, Amanda Palmer?

[02:04:56] No.

[02:04:57] She's the singer

[02:04:58] in the band, the Dresden Dolls. I didn't know her Dresden Dolls were. Not personally.

[02:05:04] Okay. I wasn't I just don't remember the name to say that.

[02:05:09] I I have a clip that kind of introduces her and kinda what she sings about. Frank, you kicked off you two? Well, I could just I could summarize the clip, or I could just show you the video of it and say what she's saying. Show us the video. Okay. Let's see. Yeah. It's

[02:05:24] a very visual video. I wanna show you Of course it is. And then I want you to sing it, Marcus.

[02:05:32] Right? Yeah. Yep. So get him to the degree karaoke night on deliberating dog face, dudes. Marcus is gonna take it away with a little bit of Russell Brand.

[02:05:43] So, yeah, what was what did he say? He looked kinda the same too. Let's just kinda go with it. Brand is going to be singing,

[02:05:50] come sail away. So Marcus is going to be singing come sail away in Russell Brand's voice. And if that doesn't happen, you're allowed to drive to Minnesota, hunt him down, and smack him in the face with a mackerel.

[02:06:06] I'm ready. Domo.

[02:06:08] Live mackerel. Domo. Yeah. You gotta watch how to, because he will probably try to eat it, so you gotta be quick.

[02:06:15] Domo arigato,

[02:06:17] mister Grow minnows, Adam. Go get a little pale. Scoop up a bunch of minnows. Don't whack them. Hock a whole bunch of minnows at them. The minnows at them. The

[02:06:30] top.

[02:06:33] With the mackerel. After a series of distraction, you know Okay. Here's some Russell Brand.

[02:06:41] Is authentic experience and how you can transfer that. I like what you said about realizing that you don't have to yield to a preexisting paradigm of what performance is supposed to be. That once you're in that place, you can just sort of go, I'll just do what I want. I'll just say what I like. You know, particularly if you understand your own intention well.

What do you think what is your intention in that space other than exploration of the last seven years of various forms of suffering that you've described?

[02:07:11] Various forms of suffering to be an artist requires

[02:07:16] great suffering. Well, I mean,

[02:07:18] the artist's suffering was obviously with her fucking hairstylist. What the fuck? Did she get into it with, like, a fucking one of them sucky fucking haircut things that they suck cut things that they used to sell back in the day and, like Jeez. That.

[02:07:33] It just cut. It sucks.

[02:07:38] She's worked in the field of pet detectivery.

[02:07:44] Let me ask you a question.

[02:07:47] Yes. Okay. So let's hear her answer. Her answer is she's thinking long and hard about it.

[02:07:57] Well, there's probably a lot of intentions all intermingling, but I think the main one is to remind people that they're not alone. I mean, there's so there's there's so little discussion particularly around the topics of what it feels like to have an abortion or to choose an abortion or to have to make decisions about, reproductive things. And,

[02:08:23] you know,

[02:08:25] and and it's the same with miscarriage. This is not something people

[02:08:29] want. Except it's not.

[02:08:32] Yeah. Except for miscarriage happens, and it's most people are heartbroken over it. And abortion, you chose it and your role is empowering.

[02:08:43] Right. And it that and look. That's not even like, that's not to say that you couldn't conceivably abort a child and then be like, oh, wow, dude. It sucks that I lost or gave up my child. That that's something that could certainly My law has to pay that. Do you mean murder? I think what Ben's trying yeah. I think what I think what Ben's trying to say is is a delineation between regret and legitimate loss and or theft.

Yeah. You know? Like, that's that's a a a miscarriage truly is the theft of a child, whereas an abortion is a deliberate taking of life for convenience.

[02:09:37] See, I mean, that that's the thing is not now you have to deal with that aspect of it and admit to that aspect of it that no matter how bad you feel about it, you did that on purpose. Yeah.

[02:09:53] She's she's come to terms with that through her art through her song lyrics.

[02:09:57] Not through her hair.

[02:09:59] No.

[02:10:01] We can just listen to her for, like, twenty four seconds. Not been looking at that shit. She goes she goes on to explain how over the course of her life, she had her first abortion at 17. She's had a second and third.

[02:10:16] Yeah. And that's most what is it? Something like sixty eight percent or some shit like that of women that have one have a second or and a third?

[02:10:25] Without a doubt. Dude, I had a friend back when I lived in Santa Cruz County that unironically referred to her pussy as a haunted house because of how many abortions she'd had. Gross. Yeah. Like, with and and I mean, look, dude. She was pretty fucking dead inside. She was. She was. She was a hardcore broad. Amanda Palmer. I mean, without hesitation. And and if I may real quick, since we were on the subject of Russell Brand Yes.

I feel obligated to to do this.

[02:11:09] People don't like Donald Trump because he's an ethereal gladiator of justice protecting the fickle fabric of the universe. Russell, the allegations have just come out. Unquestioned. I've been redeemed. Unforgiven. That's a good timing, isn't it? For Mary was a bit of a sore, wouldn't she? Russell, the allegations. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Hallelujah. What do you think about these new Instagram handles? I've got b a b, all again, Brandy, g w r, bloody wussle. What about the essay? Shining the Apostle. Love it. That's it. Russell? Yeah. We need to talk about the allegations. I'm sorry. It's getting to the clappy wacky bit of trying to use the shine.

[02:11:48] Can't ignore the clappy wacky bit. I want one more.

[02:11:52] What was that? What do you think he does baptism pick?

[02:11:54] I think people should have a choice whether they Tony Wayne is. Anywhere.

[02:11:58] Should they? I'll bet get off to confession then. Russell Yeah. The allegations. I can't, I'm afraid, and read Deuteronomy thirty sixty. Totally appropriate gap, by the way. Russell? Sorry. I'm just converting someone on the phone. Let me do what in tongues, you cheeky mix. Pray. Yeah. That sounds great. Perfidious, damn boy and feminine music. Russell, this is wrong. You can't just conveniently convert to a religion to shoot yourself against things you've been wrong. Sorry. I've got to the line. But what's that? Signal's not very good. Alright. I'll stay on the prayer. I'm just gonna step outside. Russell. Go very far away. Russell.

[02:12:36] That's that's great. I think Russell needs to maybe have a conversation with Neil Gaiman who's had many allegations against him. Neil Gaiman is the connection to rubble man. So from Amanda Palmer to Neil Gayman to acquisitions of, weird lifestyle choices

[02:12:57] For someone whose last name is Gayman, he sure did bang a lot of underage pussy.

[02:13:04] Ufta.

[02:13:06] Yeah.

[02:13:07] Ufta. Yeah. And, I mean Didn't know Bjorn Hopper had that kind of pole.

[02:13:20] Dude, if all you do is write books for quote, unquote, young adults Yeah. And tweens, you're only going to be surrounded by young adults and tweens and then the eight hundred and forty three pound blue haired fucking adults that still read your kids' books as grown ups. Well, like, I never, like, read, like,

[02:13:47] Margaret Weiss and Tracy Hickman. Like, Margaret Weiss? Mhmm. Gotta get me piece of that. Like, I don't know what the fuck will look like.

[02:13:57] I don't I look.

The the vast majority of the authors that I enjoy reading all pee standing up. I have no interest in them anyway. The the ones that sit down to pee are pretty fucking, like, scarred and horrific as far as that goes.

[02:14:21] Right. In the fantasy world, there's a room. There's really shit about There's a couple of cuties. There's Seventy thirty. I would say seventy thirty good male authors as compared to good female authors. I think that about 30% in the fantasy world, there's some real real fire ones.

[02:14:40] This is kind of an ongoing conversation. I'd like to kind of open up this can of worms. This is ID accepted. The can of worms earlier? Did you see the girls getting into it about whether

[02:14:51] it requires an orgasm that well, and the one never said it required it, but said that that's more likely to achieve orgasm orgasm to you. Pregnant if the woman achieves orgasm, which I a % agree. And if you've never gotten a girl, like, that thing turns into a it's like it's it turns into a vortex. It's grabbing it. Right? There there's no doubt that that's the pregnancy maker.

[02:15:17] The the level of hedonism, Neil Gaiman, author of Sandman, who's gone on to have his work to a to a net level series. This is kind of where he's at. Fucking retarded

[02:15:31] gorilla. Just

[02:15:37] There there's a talk of separating the art from the artist and saying, well, I can still continue to read all of these authors despite this one weird quirk about them. Okay? The conversation that I would like to have going forward is this idea of if our media is written by imperfect people, that's that's putting it lightly. If our okay. There's another category of imperfect people, we might call them actual psychopaths, narcissists, egotists, weirdo cultists with really bad ideas that are implanting their ideas into their work. So from the very foundation of the moral fiber of the character of the person writing the work, they publish the work.

The question I'm asking is going forward, and I'm gonna connect this to this AI hallucination thing where, you know, computers cannot create new work. They can remix music. They can mash up three different songs and then skirt the copyrights and the trademarks and the brand recognition and say, well, this is an it sounds new because it hasn't been made before. So moving forward, there's a need for authors to write stories that are not from a perspective that is based off of Kabala or the Ben Sirah or the Gobble Gobble book of whatever it was written by a turkey's quill that he mentioned earlier. So going forward with foundational ideas that are solid and and aligned with natural philosophy, the ideas of not inverting everything, so many of these stories are now about, you know, the good guy is actually the bad guy. The the inverse of the hero's journey type of thing where we we wanna celebrate the villain. Joker's actually a character we can relate to walking Phoenix played a a character that we can understand. It's like taxi driver. We can relate to that. This type of thing. Maleficent and Disney Disney adults, they love into that. Right?

[02:17:41] Are we? Sorry. I didn't I didn't mean to, like No. Keep going. Midstream. I apologize.

[02:17:47] Go ahead. I I pinched it off. We're good.

[02:17:50] But no. I mean, like, the the antihero thing because, I mean, the the the you know, as early as, like, '92. Right? Mhmm. The we, you know, we're we're watching Reservoir Dogs. They were all anti heroes who were all somehow also kind of the heroes except for the cop who got killed, and he was only not a hero because he was a cop. And, like, that that just, you know, for the next we we had a a progression of the antihero. This is also right at the dawn of the grunge era, which in terms of popular music or music that was at least, like, prolific in the mainstream, the grunge era specifically kind of heralded the antihero or the, you know, the, like, Ida the reluctant rock star. The I would rather, you know, have my CIA girlfriend blow my brains out and call it a suicide than be famous rock star.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're on YouTube. Unaliving. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Courtney Love was Right. Directly connected to the Central Intelligence Agency through her father. Look it up.

[02:19:13] Real

[02:19:17] easy. Alright. I'm back. I'm back. What did I miss?

[02:19:21] A little trivia. S p a s p and goofballs mostly. We we watched a few episodes. To do our best Eddie Vedder impression, but now that you're here, go ahead and kick us off, Wayne. We tried to make,

[02:19:34] Marcus sing a song, as Russell Brand and Russell Brand voice.

[02:19:40] I was supposed to sing Come Sail Away, but instead I sang mister Roboto because I was more technocratically

[02:19:46] Oh, really?

[02:19:48] Girl. Oh, girl.

[02:19:50] And then and then I showed a video of Russell Brand interviewed me. He went never never near. Amanda Palmer from the Dresden Dolls and Amanda Palmer as a solo artist writes a lot of music. I didn't know. Bodily antenna.

[02:20:07] She she wants to

[02:20:09] start talking with English accents, I just zone out. So That's fair. Amanda Palmer really believes in the the sacrament and the ritual religious rights to have abortions

[02:20:26] for forever. Go further, I wanna go on record saying the only Palmer I believe in is Laura Palmer made David Lynch, rest her soul.

[02:20:35] Also Rosie. Noted.

[02:20:37] Which is That's Ben's favorite right there. Laura Palmer, David Lynch. Great story. Girl, blue rose wrapped in plastic. We we love that. It's good stuff. Amanda Palmer being this independent woman she is kind of has some sway in the goth subculture communities, which Venn diagram, Venn diagram intersect with, you know, Wiccan and Pagan I ideas and witchcraft and gardenarian things and, oh, oh, cult stuff, like baby witch stuff, first rituals and spells, and the movie, The Craft. So Amanda Palmer and the Dresden Dolls, her solo work writing about bodily autonomy. Using a clothes hanger as a way to remove an unwanted human life. This this type of stuff, it gets very, very graphic and dramatic, and it's sort of this punk rock cabaret performance.

So this idea of women taking back this word, which to make it into a positive connotation to say that a which is a good thing. I'm going back to this idea of Lilith who was kicked out of the party. She says she left on her own terms. She couldn't live in the current situation, so she just went She was a strong, independent woman, and she didn't need no man. She left the garden where all the fruit was growing, and she had all the food provided to her. She she she left that life to go pursue an independent music career where she could spread her legs underneath a keyboard, playing music, punk rock, cabaret, and then going on Kickstarter and asking her fans for money. There's this whole, allure and legend and mythos around Amanda Palmer, who's kind of this embodying Lilith figure of female empowerment. And so many young women listen to this music, not understanding what the illusions and the song lyrics are. The Goo Goo Dolls?

[02:22:32] Is Amanda Palmer the current generation's

[02:22:35] Tory Amos? Like, I'm really missing something here. She'd like to be. I think she'd like to be. Okay. Kind of the voice of this character. Pull off Corn Flake Girl, but Lilith probably could

[02:22:47] if she humped the piano stool just right.

[02:22:50] Her her first song is called coin operated boy. It's about putting a coin into a toy, and it rumbles between her legs and makes her feel

[02:22:59] a certain way. Just buy a fucking motorcycle, broad fucking kick rocks. Nobody cares.

[02:23:05] So the theme is hedonism.

[02:23:07] Harley's are cheap these days. Sexual pleasure They really are. Without procreation.

[02:23:14] And the songs that celebrate that lifestyle to say, you know what? You can have all the pleasure without the responsibility of childbirth and motherhood.

[02:23:24] When when has that not been a prevalent theme in popular music, though?

[02:23:32] Oh, it's all pointing toward this hypermaterialist paradigm. That's what it's all about, essentially. It's about the fulfillment of this world of shells, the body, the form, devoid of spirit, not worrying about all of that. It's not about maintaining some type of accountability to a moral or ethical code of any sort. That's what these people have firmly in ensconced into popular culture this notion of moral relativism that there's no absolute standard of right or wrong. So whatever feels good, do it. And that's what they push and promote, and that seems to be part of the emphasis behind this Lilith ideology at this point in the modern feminist movement. So that being the case, you could understand that these type of people are gonna emerge in that situation and have influence on this younger generation, and we're living in this generation now that, first of all, they have no attention span whatsoever.

It's it's like the attention span of a goldfish literally. So it's the TikTok generation. And, boy, things have degenerated quite quickly here over the course of the past twenty years because we had the YouTube generation that came up, and now the attention spans on this one's even worse. And they just rehash other people's work and call it their own. Like, one thing that aggravates me on TikTok is the the people sitting there doing this and pointing to somebody else's hard work, and then they're getting millions of views and getting a paycheck for doing that. It it aggravates me to no end, and it's just like you're you're retarded. I'm sorry. You're gay and retarded. I could use those words, can't I? I could call something gay and retarded and not feel bad about it. I don't I mean, we're on YouTube, but we're on YouTube in Donald Trump's America, Wayne Yeah. In 2025.

[02:25:21] So I do kinda feel like we we can, you know We can sink in right now. On the table a little bit and be Yeah. We just can't say we just can't say small hat stuff.

[02:25:32] Right. Right. That like, you know, it it yeah. When they flip it around, then we gotta you you gotta recensor yourself, you know, in, the other direction.

[02:25:42] Yeah. There are a couple of no no words as far as YouTube goes. Everywhere else, we're we're fine. We're fine. We appreciate

[02:25:51] creative euphemisms. We appreciate Gosh Gobi good boy language that really cleans up and sanitizes. Language? Yes. Good boy language.

[02:26:03] You don't wanna use bad boy language. I use nothing but good boy language for the most part. So it's it's all good. I kinda see like a pirate.

[02:26:13] Yeah. Well, this is this is the church plus state thing, and that is, I gotta ask you, you said church plus state. Is it church plus state equals nanny state and Sunday school teacher slapping you on the wrist?

[02:26:25] Well, it's hard to say for sure, but you'll notice that there seems to be this this emergence of spiritual concerns in western culture once again, especially here in America. And a lot of this stuff has been engineered in a certain direction. And I'm thinking of that that document, that plan from the Heritage Foundation that came about during the election cycle that had all the liberals losing their freaking minds. And and they're seeing some of this stuff actually come into fruition right now in in the political spectrum of things where they're seeing people moving back towards traditional values and stuff like that and Oh, it's serious. Going away from going away from woke culture, if you wanna call it. Serious. And I think that that was always the plan. Because I think totally.

[02:27:07] I think that they would had to go completely crazy with the liberalism in order to get people to accept the jackboot.

Because they're like because there's so many people now that are like it's just reached this. It it's very much entered the public zeitgeist where it's the Prometheus give the fire back. Only the gods have this. You know? So, like, religiously, while you're seeing Christianity shrink, you're seeing, like, on on a whole, you're seeing Orthodox Christianity grow by leaps and bounds where it's extremely structured and you don't get to think, you know, anything. You can't even read the bible and interpret it for yourself. You have to go and ask somebody else how to interpret what was said.

[02:27:53] And that's where the emergence of this new pope comes in because it's gonna be a step back towards Catholic traditions and traditional values and things like that. And we're seeing a step towards that already with this new pope. So even though, fundamentally, he wasn't much different than pope Francis on his stances on things, It seems that he has come and taken a stance back, a step back towards more traditional Catholic values where he is in he came out recently, couple days ago or something, and said something to the effect that a family is a man and a woman, and their their children or something like that. I know I know that he's traditional.

[02:28:32] I know that he's Paul Babb from Chicago, but he's also, you know, Roberto from Peru. Right. So And Roberto from Peru recognizes a man and a woman even if Bob from Chicago had to sit there and give mass to some very funny looking fellas.

[02:28:58] You know what I mean? Exactly. So this is part of the engineered plan. They wanna bring back these type of more traditional values and spiritual concerns back to America, and this has to do with the the foundation of this new Roman Empire idea that I was alluding to earlier as well. So you could see how the you could connect the dots between all of this stuff and and see the inroads into that going on, and it's been in the works. And we've been introduced this idea from this what is it? The agenda 2025 or whatever they were calling it. The this plan from the Heritage Foundation that he was running on. Oh, the yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I forget the name of the document.

Yeah. Project twenty twenty five or whatever. But the Liberals were losing their frigging minds over this and talking about how it's gonna be like the handmaiden's tail and all of this stuff. And they're they're seeing some real world effects going back towards these traditional values, which really is bringing into question lack of sandwiches. There is a distinct lack of sandwiches. I I always complain about that. My wife gave you Heritage Foundation.

[02:30:02] You only got the robe and the bonnet right. You fucked up on the sandwiches.

[02:30:09] The sandwiches are the more important part. It's critical heritage foundation key.

[02:30:15] Too bad. So what is a handmaiden? What is it the tale? Is that a Philip k Dick story?

[02:30:22] I've never watched the movie. I know it was a popular movie for a time, and I know it was based on a book, but I'm not sure who wrote it or Was it a Philip k Dick book? And did Philip k

[02:30:32] Dick talk about the Roman Empire never ended, the blackcurrant prison, this type of thing? You're you're saying that there's this, Roman thing going on with Trump and the pope and the church and the state. Is Right. This Roman Empire never ended thing, black iron prison connected to gnostic ideas? Are we living in a simulation? What's going on, man?

[02:30:54] I don't buy that we're living in a simulation, but you could look and see the the Roman Empire never really fell. It just kinda transformed into the Vatican, and the Holy Roman Empire took over and has spread its wings throughout the world.

But if you look into the study of eschatology and biblical end time studies, you find that there has to be a second world empire that emerges. And I think the death of pope Francis really signaled the end of the first run of the Roman Empire because the church the Catholic church has been in shambles for a long time. And now all their hopes rest upon this new pope. And it seems like if they're turning back to more traditional type things, values, morals, ethics, this kind of thing, it's going to bring an emergence, a reemergence of the Catholic church along with America because this new pope's from America. So it kinda unifies those two things and ports it over here to America.

So, certainly, we see that going on, and we've seen the state of America for the past several years. It really looked as if the American empire was crumbling and was destined for the dustbin of history, but now we're actually seeing things begin to turn around here. And America is reclaiming its status as a superpower in this world. So this could signal the arrival and the foundation of a new Roman Empire, a second Roman Empire, which in and of itself is destined to fall according to the biblical scripture, according to the book of Revelation. Because you see, Rome has been largely identified by many biblical scholars and theologians as Babylon when mentioned in terms of the Bible. So when we read in the book of Revelation, Babylon has fallen, has fallen.

If you've been a student of the word of the scripture, you know in theological circles that when you see a statement like that made twice, it means literally it will happen twice. So Rome has fallen, and it's going to fall again before the rise and the advent of antichrist. So I think we're seeing the emergence of this new Roman Empire, and it's destined to fall catastrophically at some point. But first, it has to be reestablished, and we have to have this turning back towards the faith and towards spiritual concerns and religious concerns. We need that to come about. And this, of course, all works according to the natural cycles of time because we're going through what has been identified by authors in the past as the fourth turning. Every four generations, we see something like this happen Because you've probably invariably heard the trope that weak men bring about hard times, hard times bring about strong men, strong men bring about good times, and good times bring about weak men.

So it's this cycle of generations. It's the fourth generation, the fourth turning. So they've kind of leveraged this principle in a lot of ways, and it seems to me they're reengineering this turning back towards these more right wing ideologies in the political spectrum of things and moving back towards common sense and traditional values because they took it completely off the deep end the other way, didn't they? And now that's why they're able to actually do this, and I think you're correct. It's in order to institute the jack boot. It doesn't matter if it's a right boot or a left boot that's stomping on your head for eternity. It it's just the boot's gonna be there, and they don't care which direction that that falls on. They always play back towards the middle. It's it's the classic Hegelian control mechanism really when it comes down to it. It's the same people in power that have always been in power.

Let's put it that way. It's all an illusion of choice.

[02:34:54] The boots gonna stomp. Is that, a vegan leather boot, an artificial leather boot, or is it actual leather?

[02:35:01] Do we have some gonna be actual leather. It's right wing.

[02:35:05] Yeah. It's right wing. So that's actual leather. There's not gonna be any kind of vegan alternative to that now. They they tried playing that card too. They they always you you have eats your bugs. You remember, you're gonna get your bugs. You'll own nothing, and you'll be happy. Now they got the the other guy that that water is not a human right guy in the World Economic Forum, insurance of blouse. So it's all the same madness over and over again.

[02:35:30] Wayne, in your synchronic mystic metadata, do you look into the artist formerly known as Kanye West at all? Is that a picture of interest?

[02:35:40] I I've never looked at anything Kanye West. I couldn't even tell you a single song that he sings or anything that he's ever done. I am so not into pop culture that it's actually, like, pathetic. I guess you could say modern pop culture. I don't know. Like, I have no idea who you were talking about before any of these these people. Like, I know No. I'm the same way. Yeah. I know the name Kanye West. I couldn't tell you a single thing he's ever done. But Sure. It's a good name. He's got a Jesus song or something.

[02:36:12] Yeah. And then the and then the hail Hitler

[02:36:15] n word song. A short history of Kanye West, as a musician or or he's kinda talks over music.

He was on the cover of Rolling Stone wearing a a crown of thorns kind of representing a Jesus figure. You know, he dated a Kardashian, blah blah blah. Who cares? Always in the media, always in the paper. He's got this, ego where he's the best rapper on the Earth. But now in his later life, having children and amusing them, he he kinda does the hippity hoppity kind of that sound thing. Hippity hoppity.

[02:36:51] Well, you can't spell you can't spell crap without rap, I guess. I don't know.

[02:36:54] Right. He's he's not quite like Prince or Tupac. He's more like, you know, he has auto tuned music where he auto tunes his voice and he sings about his dent dentist giving a nitrous.

So a long story short,

[02:37:11] now he is That's the entire album, bro.

[02:37:14] Well, it's World War three is the theme and title of the album. He plays a a a character with a funny looking mustache, and he plays speeches of the funny mustache man from Germany

[02:37:26] from World War two. And just the new one or the the Jesus one?

[02:37:32] His latest album, it's Ben Lee. Oh, yeah. I've I've listened to it. It's like auto tune. It sounds like AI auto tune the voice and just throw out an album. The the memetic energy of people around the globe singing and chanting the h h of, hey. How you doing, mister Hitler?

And then Who's that man? Using an using a word that has two g's in it. And

[02:38:03] I mean, I could provide us with a white version Do you have the mandolin version? Without the no. No. Piano. Okay. Yeah. Classical piano. In fact, by by friend of the show, Foundry. Okay. I I will say this, though. That's it's less

[02:38:29] Steve question. Maybe we wanna say good night in YouTube and then continue to rumble and then let the let the show up as far as Oh, we can Alright, fellas. I do have to bail here. So Thank you so much for your time, Wayne. It's always excellent talking to you, brother. Gonna respect your time, Wayne. You're staying until we tell you to leave.

[02:38:50] It's always different. It's always a pleasure talking to you, brother, and always

[02:38:55] always enlightening.

Just

[02:39:00] appreciate you coming in, brother. Really appreciate it. Being here. It's always a pleasure, gentlemen. Be well. We'll we'll do this again real soon. Have a good night. Do that. %.

[02:39:13] With that, I say, let's say good night to YouTube, and then maybe we can Hold on. Before we say good night to YouTube, we need to roll out our new our our our new segment. Oh, you got it. Alright. Dog pound. Dog pound. That's right. Go.

[02:39:30] Just fresh up, Gavin.

[02:39:32] So

[02:39:34] Turn on my page here. Dog pound.

[02:39:39] Well, I mean, this is something that that we had discussed, and it just makes so much sense. I think we're we're going to have to do it. Now in the tradition of other, very, very famous, very, I I don't know, varying degrees of credible content creators who have given, you know, particular animal traits as affectionate names to their audiences.

We we did discuss

[02:40:15] Are they unbearable names?

[02:40:18] Yeah. You know, I mean, that's a direction that's been taken, certainly. Certainly. Mhmm. Yeah. But we are the deliberating dog face dude. So Mhmm. Upon deliberation, we we did discuss although I don't know if we necessarily pulled the trigger. Ben was all for it. I remember that. Ben was all for it. We discussed the idea of of attributing, a a, you know, a dog name, not to the audience. A double dog dare. Yeah. Not to the audience. Dodgers. But to the debate Dodgers. Yep. Yeah. So we would have, like like, let's see.

Andrew, the hip displaced German shepherd Wilson.

[02:41:15] Okay.

[02:41:17] Right? Or something like that. Right? Like, I'm I don't I don't know if you're spitballing. I am. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Yep.

[02:41:23] All I know is actually I want Jay Dyer to be a a a poofy poodle and hot pink. Yes. And and Yeah. Fucking you know? And then and then some asshole holding it go, it's a hunting dog.

[02:41:38] See, I think that Jay Dyer is more of a labradoodle. I think that he's hypoallergenic. Okay? You could probably you could probably bring a Jay Dyer into the White House, and at worst, it would pee on the carpet.

At worst. At worst. Whereas, if you brought, you know, like, an unwashed Balderson into the White House, it it it would not look the same since Andrew Jackson.

[02:42:13] So this would kinda fall in the tradition of, Joseph Biden. We'll we'll say pray for him. Joseph Biden talked about the,

[02:42:23] the 9,000 soldiers. We respect everyone going through cognitive decline, And Oh, nice. Is the liberating dog face dudes are, you know, always looking out cancer for dementia or Alzheimer's, or or is this because of the fake ass cancer thing? The the the cancer in the ball sack. I mean, this is the synchronistic

[02:42:42] metadata of cancer and this is really the ball sack? It it's, like, kinda under the ball sack, like, in between the butthole and the ball sack. It's in a near spot.

[02:42:53] Prostate. Oh, it's under whoop. Cancer. It is.

[02:42:56] I, you know, I always hear that word, and I hear pro state, and Joseph Biden was always pro state. Yeah. Yeah. To have to have pro state cancer,

[02:43:07] it it makes sense. It is pretty ironic that a guy with a fake cancer charity that was just used as a money laundering scheme in the name of cancer research got, quote, unquote, diagnosed with prostate cancer. That is after having possibly sacrificed a son,

[02:43:30] specifically, you know Did he sacrifice hunter or gatherer?

[02:43:35] It was it was gatherer.

Gatherer. Yeah. Yeah. And by the way, YouTube, we we are about to leave you. I haven't done that yet. I'm getting ready to so if you're watching on YouTube, we're about to cut the live feed to the YouTube channels, pick it up over on Rumble, on the AM wake up Rumble, on the AM wake up Odyssey, on the AM wake up bit shoot, or on the AM wake up Rockfin. But, yeah, we're we're dropping off because we're about to violate some r I a a or whatever it is. NDAs. Yeah. Some We about to violate some policies. Some n double a CPs, some ASPCA's.

We're violating all of it. We are. About to resacralize

[02:44:34] the screws.

[02:44:37] Right. Right. We're about to shrink to four foot three and then send angry emails to Balderson at 03:00 in the morning.

[02:44:46] Dude, I got I got some fresh ones in that we'll have to

[02:44:49] Oh. Yeah. I got I got I got some fresh shoots. If you're currently watching on YouTube Mhmm. Don't be a sucker. Go over to the AM wake up, Rockfin, Rumble, Odyssey, or a bit shoot, and and we'll see you over there. And Ben will disclose some disclosure. Disclosureing is imminent. Disclosureing abounds.

[02:45:15] What the fuck is going on?

[02:45:17] Bye, YouTube.

[02:45:25] We have the deliberating dog paced dude stream to say goodnight to. Goodnight.

[02:45:30] Hi, guys. Goodnight.

[02:45:33] There we go. There's one, and there's two. Come on.

[02:45:42] Do what I want you to do, thing. About to dip some scrotums in a nice bath and watch them show. Alright.

[02:45:49] Alright. Now that we can talk to the grown ups. I'm going to finish my last couple of bites of flan.

[02:46:00] While he's doing that, I will quick pull up.

[02:46:04] Are there any email correspondences?

[02:46:06] The the correspondences. So I think, Since since last week,

[02:46:23] Since we last left our heroes.

[02:46:26] So I said, you know, 03:30AM, I said, oofta. Middle of the night freak out when every normal person is sleeping. I see you idolize Hitler now, but lay off the meth, man. You look like you've been chipped. Get back on your knees so Jesus can give you some more pearl necklace.

[02:46:47] I I

[02:46:49] He wore a pearl necklace. Oh, fuck. It was Jesus pearl necklace.

[02:46:56] And so then he gets mad at Marcus in the middle of this because of Marcus's brilliant, short he put together. And then his comments, which also Marty left a bunch of comments and and other people noticed and then went back and deleted his comments. It's fucking hilarious. The dude is nuts. So he says, some shit about crying about about double rainbows, and I was like, I cry at double rainbows. Are you drunk? Asian teenagers trying to talk shit. Were you promoting Marcus having premarital sex? Because he asked if Marcus has ever had sex with anybody but a man. I don't kiss and tell. That's on the public record as far as that goes. I have a a double rainbow. It's like,

[02:47:44] double rainbow, and a lightning bolt goes through it on on a YouTube channel. So maybe he was maybe he was interested, and he was looking around to see what I have on my web page, my website. Well, he saw you in the wizard outfit with the pointy hat, and he thought maybe you were willing

[02:48:01] to take him behind the blacksmith shop at the Ren Faire.

Yeah. You know, give him a proper rogering.

[02:48:09] So, yeah, I told him, you know, I said so I said debating would have been easier and less chicken shit. Also, I can hold my weed unlike some folks who get lost in vans, cry at a double rainbow, laugh out loud. And then, yes, he did he did talk shit about Marcus. He said, he your your co host, posted this pic unironically as and so I

[02:48:32] you know? Know what irony is?

[02:48:34] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I don't think he does. Okay. And so I said, I couldn't see the double rainbow comment with that where that was left because some insane person leaves comments and deletes them. That would be Marty. Leaves them when they're just wanted to, they're deleted. Yeah. I said, I didn't assume you decided to go at Marcus exclusively, but it makes sense in your current state you seem to be in. Mhmm. What exact where exactly would I already fit in on a picture dressing up being silly?

Or you believe he thinks he's a wizard. I'm a computer wizard,

[02:49:09] performing a computer wizardry. I think that's pretty well established.

[02:49:13] It is. Yeah. Said, you know, sometimes a person isolates too long and loses their mind. We say they've been in the hills too long. You may wanna step out of the hills for a bit. What the fuck happened to you, man? You realize you turn a friend into an enemy acting like a fucking fool? Get your shit together. And so he says, I I just heard of vagina flapping. The state I'm in, hilarious. You mean the two documentaries we made, the poetry book we just released? What's which what's it we? Is he speaking in royal now?

[02:49:44] So I get the entire And by the way, who brags about releasing a poetry book? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, fuck

[02:49:52] are you a 15 year old girl that that His wife who does. This is my favorite part. The three records of AI music we made with all my lyric.

[02:50:05] I don't know anyone, that I would consider enough of an associate to play music with, let alone am I capable of playing my own instrument. So I turned my bullshit, fucking half ass slam poetry into AI music in case you needed another reason to make fun of me. Yeah. Yeah.

[02:50:33] The half We were already though. We weren't making fun of this man. He already I I am. I am totally making fun of him. I am. Now we are. Now we are. We didn't start out that way. No. Not law. Not law. No. We we were We already wrote all that this year. We want And all the sermons he's done. We watched And setting up his PMA. And hours of watching Marty material, and then we had one criticism, one criticism, and we focused specifically on Marty talking about national nationalism as being a solution for the white man and a problem for the establishment. We scratch our head and say the final solution.

He made that joke too. Yeah. Ironically or unironically. That Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Is the one Yeah. We wanted to check the tone. We wanted to see how in conversation with other people, when not on a soapbox platform spewing out to a live stream audience who can only affirm, congratulate, and pat you on the back.

[02:51:42] Yeah. I can't deny. You'll put them.

[02:51:44] The slightest deviation from the scripture and the the requirements of being a member in good standing means your content your your comments get deleted and you're excommunicated from the private Discord, Telegram, chat group, whatever they have going on.

We're not members of that, so we're already de facto anti members or already prekicked out. We we cannot be allowed into the the Pre excommunicated. Yes.

[02:52:20] So he says the cell so then he says, the state that he's in is prolific. The state I'm in is pathetic. Goodbye, BB. Go enjoy your hashtag lab. Like, laugh out loud. Like, okay. I if that's the weirdest shit to say right there. Now there is another prolific dude that I know of. In fact, he holds four Guinness World Book records for writing the most material. He also happened to make a batshit crazy religion where you're not allowed to talk about it to people in the outside world. King?

And not allowed to, question the authority. No. No. Not human playing. Yeah.

[02:53:03] That was one Hubbard.

[02:53:06] Ela Ron Hubbard. He made this fancy little religion called Scientology, which has many of the same tenants Marty is displaying. He was also very prolific. But Yeah. Just

[02:53:20] Scientology have AI tunes about gnosticism. Right? And is it, like, blink one eighty two where it's Marty's voice, but he's like, all the gnostings, they sync between

[02:53:41] It's like so whatever. Yeah. Yeah. The claim Marty makes the claim that pagans and the North Pagans and the followers of Odin have not suffered the same amount of attacks as as Jesus said. That that was the bait. Boulderson took the bait and said, hey. You said this thing. You made a you made a prompt for a debate. Let's debate the topic of Let's do it. Who has been more oppressed?

Gnostics, Christians, whatever side of the aisle you are on, or Norse pagan, Germanic,

[02:54:19] whatever you want. Whatever Starbucks. What, Marcus? The Starbucks cup. The Melusine. They hate Jesus.

[02:54:27] The leg spreading mermaid.

[02:54:30] They took Jesus off the Starbucks cup.

[02:54:35] That was the only point of contention we were contending with. That was the debate prompt.

[02:54:42] Around, my head. I wasn't mad. I was being silly.

[02:54:47] We gave him

[02:54:48] two Somebody here is like, you aren't mad, are you? Uh-huh. We gave him two two days to join in and just jump in and say,

[02:54:58] here's what I wanna say about this topic.

Great. And you and you said, I'm not gonna join your debate. Fine. So then using the form of email, respond with a a rebuttal, a clarification. Just just say just state your point that we are in disagreement. Potentially, we don't even know if we're in disagreement with it. I'm gonna talk shit in your chat, delete it, and run

[02:55:26] because that's what he did. That's what he did. I don't even know this dude. I really don't. And so Does he know himself? Have a problem kicking him around because I don't have He's a Gnostic. What is Gnosticism

[02:55:41] like knowing yourself? Like, having this sort of knowledge that you just know?

[02:55:47] He's a not he doesn't believe in any of the things that gnostics believe in and has his own Jesus cult where he where he counts on his knuckles.

[02:55:56] It basically just means he owns a very comfortable white robe, and it has a hood. And every once in a while, he puts it on in front of his audience, and then he probably, like, fingers his own butt hole a little bit.

[02:56:13] So, I would I would nominate him as Yurt dog.

[02:56:21] Yes. Yurt dog? Your dog.

[02:56:24] Yes. Okay. Okay. Okay.

[02:56:28] That's a good one. Your dog. Alright.

[02:56:34] Your dog. Okay.

[02:56:38] Yeah. He needs to be like a dirty little hippie dog. Alright. Alright. Alright. That's been that's been In honor of the Wu Tang Clan, can we also refer to him as Yurt Magurt?

[02:56:49] Yeah.

They the the invasion dodging

[02:56:52] Yurt McGirt, Marty bleeds. Dude, dude, Yurt McGirt is his new dog name. A % because that is something that dumb fucker would say too.

[02:57:02] Alright. Alright. You're McGirt. It is. That's great. That shit down.

[02:57:09] So in terms of, the end of the year, we we wanna clarify again. We understand that a membership agreement is not the same as a nondisclosure agreement. But in effect, when the when the member agreement says members are not allowed to disclose private events and documents and chats and anything we talk about and any rituals and any anything we do, like, those are all church, Gnostic Academy secrets. You can't talk about them. If you do, you're excommunicated.

In that way, it functions as a normal closure agreement, and a

[02:57:49] new

[02:57:56] So don't lawyer us, bro. We're not lawyering you. This is gentlemen having a conversation about topics. All it is.

[02:58:07] Calm down, Yurt McGirt. No. It's,

[02:58:11] debate dodging Yurt McGirt, Marty Bleeds. Right. Who's

[02:58:22] been to real quick? Be, like, Jay Docksend? You think Jay Dyer might might might do well as a little wiener dog? What if we put a Hawaiian shirt on the wiener dog? Could be. I don't even know how we're doing this. Kinda low, but we're just giving him a dog name because, you know, I mean, Well, it's a it's a dog face Good. Jay Dodson needs to bump your girlfriend's leg while you're kicking while you're while she's trying to kick him off. Definitely gonna hump your girlfriend's leg the second you let him into the house. When when someone initially

[02:58:59] agrees to a debate and then rescinds the debate offer from themselves somehow, They get a a debate dodging dirty dog name as a lying dog faced pony soldier that they are.

So Jay Docksend will workshop it further. Alright, kid. I got a like a. I gotta bounce.

[02:59:28] Alright.

[02:59:29] That's, the the rock fin, the rumble, the odyssey, everyone. Thanks for hanging out. Three hours and we're out.

[02:59:39] Yep. Take care, everybody. We'll see you next week. Love you guys. You're not gonna say the see you next Tuesday thing? See you next Tuesday, I guess.

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